Groundhog control
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Topic: Groundhog control
Posted By: nella(Pa)
Subject: Groundhog control
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 1:33pm
Dose anyone have experience with the tool that puts a mixture of propane and oxygen in the holes and ignites it? What is the kill rate and how loud is it? Or maybe a better idea how to get rid of them.
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Posted By: Goose
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 1:35pm
I think it's used more for mole control than groundhogs.
http://www.rodenator.com/ - http://www.rodenator.com/
I think it's rather expensive, however.
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Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 1:49pm
Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 2:02pm
Lead poisoning always works!
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Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 2:13pm
sure does
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Posted By: Osage_Orange
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 2:18pm
Try connecting a hose from your tractor exhaust to inside the groundhog hole, put some dirt around it, let the tractor run for 20 minutes, remove the hose.
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Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 2:53pm
Ruger #1 bull barrell 16X Leopold scope with 55 grain polymer tip being pushed with 35 units of H350 if memory serves me correct. Or .264 Win Mag 100 grain polymer tips lol. For quiet times a bow and arrow.
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Posted By: Dans 7080
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 3:58pm
We used to have a big problem with them. They would burrow into the creek bank and come up in the yard. We tried shooting them but another would always come and take over. Finally we put about 5 gallons of water down the hole followed by about 2 gallons of gasoline, threw a match in the top hole after a few minutes and WHOOSH!!! a flaming groundhog shot out the creek entrance of the hole. Never had a problem after that.
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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 4:00pm
Goose wrote:
I think it's used more for mole control than groundhogs.
http://www.rodenator.com/ - http://www.rodenator.com/
I think it's rather expensive, however.
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looks like a Red Green contraption for sure! looks like fun, though!
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Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 4:03pm
Dans 7080 wrote:
We used to have a big problem with them. They would burrow into the creek bank and come up in the yard. We tried shooting them but another would always come and take over. Finally we put about 5 gallons of water down the hole followed by about 2 gallons of gasoline, threw a match in the top hole after a few minutes and WHOOSH!!! a flaming groundhog shot out the creek entrance of the hole. Never had a problem after that. |
I'd pay a dollar to see that! LOL
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Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 4:31pm
i would to lol
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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 4:39pm
Not too many woodchucks left in this part of NY State; coyotes keep them and rabbits in check.
Back in the 50s and 60s, guys used to "ride the roads" in the evenings shooting woodchucks, My brother shot over 300 one summer with nothing more than 22 hollow points. I mean "cut off their tails" kills. It will keep your shooting skills up to par.
My Dad had a mongrel dog once that when she was in her prime would kill as many as 5 or 6 a week. Sometimes we had to give her a hand if she got one cornered in a stone wall. I believe they breed at what ever rate they need to keep their area at maximum population. Seemed that no matter how many you killed, the population remained fairly stable back in those days.
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Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 5:20pm
I was told "put bubble gum in the hole,they can't digest it and they die from a bad case of constapation" i don't know if it works but don't tell PETA what your doing. LOL
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Posted By: Nate (OH)
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 6:06pm
22-250 with nosler 50 grain tips. works wonders for out to 400 yards.
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Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 7:05pm
I hear ya Brian G. Pre 1985 we were always over run with chucks. I used to arrow them by the scores!
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 7:35pm
Around here it seems like population has gone up since the 80's. I don't remember ever seeing a ground hog when I was a kid in the 50's and 60's. Now they aren't thick, but if any buildings set unused for any period of time, they find a place to dig.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF
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Posted By: Mark IN
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 7:46pm
A 220 conibear trap works wonders. Years ago I caught 12 groundhogs out of one hole in one summer along a soybean field.
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 7:50pm
a friend of mine took an nh3 wagon out to one of his sidehills, dug down, put an adapter on the hose and let it run awhile. what he didn't know was that that piticular tank was used for a grain dryer and was full of propane! i wasn;t there, but he said he shut off the hose and pulled the hose out, threw his cigarette on the ground and about leveled that hill!
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Posted By: wfmurray
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 8:12pm
had some corn pulled down and eat on . Put D- CON on green shucks no more probalem
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Posted By: Reeseholler
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 8:15pm
243 with 100 grain. Either that, or if they're in the middle of the field, my pap takes the liquid slurry spreader and fills the hole up. That works too.
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Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 8:59pm
I used a whole package of gofer grenades. just light one and drop in each hole then cover the hole. kills em dead. I used cardboard and rocks to cover the hole. if you leve the hole open the smoke escapes.
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Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 9:07pm
you could try watching caddy shack that will tell you how to get rid of varmits. (plastic explosive!!!!!!)
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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 9:23pm
Good place to put your waste oil. They don't like it and will leave. MACK
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Posted By: Harvey/pa
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 9:25pm
Black net wrap stuffed in holes & ground shoveled on top I'm told works well. I told my loving wife if I don't come in for supper after feeding round bales to come looking for me, I'll probably be tangled up in net wrap & can't get up. She wondered why she would want to come looking, maybe I should take some lessons from Shameless...Harvey
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Posted By: junkman
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 9:32pm
I think this is what he was talking about. if this posts right? http://%5bTUBE%5dFXY8Fj0OE-Y&feature=related%5b/TUBE%5d - [TUBE]FXY8Fj0OE-Y&feature=related[/TUBE]
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 10:21pm
Anhydrous drives them out in a hurry if they're near the surface and have another hole to get out. Shameless, sure that wasn't you with the LP? LOL
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Posted By: Osage_Orange
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 10:57pm
SHAMELESS wrote:
a friend of mine took an nh3 wagon out to one of his sidehills, dug down, put an adapter on the hose and let it run awhile. what he didn't know was that that piticular tank was used for a grain dryer and was full of propane! i wasn;t there, but he said he shut off the hose and pulled the hose out, threw his cigarette on the ground and about leveled that hill! |
Now we know why Eastern NE is so flat! Shameless did it again! LOL
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 11:16pm
Dakota Dave wrote:
I used a whole package of gofer grenades. just light one and drop in each hole then cover the hole. kills em dead. I used cardboard and rocks to cover the hole. if you leve the hole open the smoke escapes. | Do those work on moles too? 3 small engines with the exhaust piped into their tunnels just made them move to another part of the yard.
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2011 at 8:38am
Prairie dog problem eliminator done humanely
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Posted By: 1946WP
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2011 at 7:16pm
I don't know about bubble gum , but I know juicy fruit gum works. I was infested with them & I lightly chewed a couple sticks & put it on a board in front of their hole & it got rid of all of them . I don't know what it does , but it worked for me. It's a long story on how I found out, but I learned this from a nurse in the hospital.
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Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2011 at 9:13pm
I'm trying to figure out what is worse, the groundhog or pouring used motor oil and gasoline on the ground as a deterent. The idea of pouring that stuff on my ground would make me think the groundhog really aint that bad. Ryan
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2011 at 10:04pm
I'm with you Ryan. One quart of motor oil can contaminate a Million gallons of ground water.
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Posted By: cklimen
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2011 at 12:55am
Osage_Orange wrote:
Try connecting a hose from your tractor exhaust to inside the groundhog hole, put some dirt around it, let the tractor run for 20 minutes, remove the hose. |
The device used to direct exhaust into a critter burrow is called the Crittergetter. It can be found here: http://www.groundhogcontrol.info - GroundhogControl.Info or http://www.crittergetteronline.com - CrittergetterOnline.Com or http://www.gophercontrol.us - GopherControl.us
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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2011 at 7:52am
Look around, I've seen ground hog escape holes with no loose dirt around them. Would not have seen it if I hadn't almost stepped in it.
Dusty
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Posted By: Ben (MI)
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2011 at 10:04am
I have had success with Revenge Rodent Smoke Bombs.
http://www.amazon.com/Revenge-Rodent-Smoke-Bomb-Box/dp/B002LCT2I6 - http://www.amazon.com/Revenge-Rodent-Smoke-Bomb-Box/dp/B002LCT2I6
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2011 at 10:20am
Are people mixing up Pocket gophers with the larger burrowing animal. Chucks like to burrow in protected places and not in open fields
Groundhog, woodchuck -- what's the difference?
Woodchuck and groundhog are common terms for the same animal, the rodent with the scientific name of Marmota monax. Most closely related to squirrels, woodchucks actually can climb trees and also swim.
What's for dinner?
Groundhogs in the wild eat succulent green plants, such as dandelion greens, clover, plantain and grasses. They also are tempted by nearby garden vegetables. At Cornell, they dine on Agway Woodchuck Chow, a similar formulation to rabbit feed but in larger-sized pellets. Woodchucks binge and purposefully put on weight in the summer, reaching their maximum mass in late August. They become lethargic and prepare for hibernation in October. By February, hibernating woodchucks have lost as much as half their body weight.
Some more info on animal and it's range per Canadian site .
http://www.hww.ca/hww2.asp?pid=1&id=109&cid=8 - http://www.hww.ca/hww2.asp?pid=1&id=109&cid=8
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2011 at 1:15pm
That critter getter thing might be a good idea. I'm thinking the D17D might do a better job than a late model car. Cold diesel smoke ought to really do the job fast...
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Posted By: CBL95
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2011 at 3:26pm
A very accute form of lead poisning givin by a Remington 770 22-250 at 375yrds out
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Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2011 at 7:21pm
Thanks CTucker!! Anyone dumping used motor oil on the ground to kill a varmint needs to really consider WTF they are really doing!! Ryan
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