Speaking of Waukesha Bs
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Topic: Speaking of Waukesha Bs
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Subject: Speaking of Waukesha Bs
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 9:24pm
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I know Waukesha built great engines.
How did the Waukesha Bs perform compared to the Allis powered Bs?
Was there a Nebraska test of the B when it first came out with the Waukesha and another later when Allis installed there own engine?
Just curious.
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Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 3:36pm
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Brian, If I recall correctly the Waukesha B had a lower powered engine than the original B. It has less displacement. The early Allis Chalmers B tractors had 116 cu in engines. That Later B tractors with the larger 125 cu in engine. Most of the older B tractors when overhauled received the newer sleves and pistons which also increased their displacement and HP.
My understanding that the Waukesha engine was a very dependable unit but now as powerful as the Allis Chalmers Engines.
Hope this is some help.
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 6:54pm
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I have a few Wauk FC Power Units, and the displacement is slightly higher than the B engine at 133 cu in. I believe Bill is exactly right on the power difference, however. I couldn't find the HP in my manuals, but If memory serves the FC is in the 16-17 HP range. I'll try to find it.
Bill, I'm sure glad you hang out here. You've got a great memory about a tractor that was built almost 75 years ago! ------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 7:01pm
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The waukesha's in the B's were 113 cu in but not sure on the hp rating. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 8:49pm
| Thanks for the info fellas! |
Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 8:55pm
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Lonnie, do you perchance know the bore and stroke of the FC Wauk in the B? The PU's are 3 1/4 x 4, I'd just like to know the differences if you'd happen to know. ------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 9:23pm
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Waukesha is still building engines. They might know some of those details. Gerald J. |
Posted By: wfmurray
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 9:41pm
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I have some litature on an earley model B. It has116 cu in ,31/4 bore x
31/2 stroke 1400 rpm,h. p. on distillate 16.31 belt 13.54 drawbar,don,t list on gasoline.I think this was a A C engine Later engine list 22.87 belt ,20.60 drawbar 33/8x 31.2 piston1500 rpm
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Posted By: RichinWis
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 10:19pm
| One other thing on the Waukesha B's is that thier cooling system was gravity feed, IE no water pump just the gravity feed which could have made for some problems in field conditions, although some farmals had that type of system. I can give you the bore and stroke if I think to look this weekend. |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 10:43pm
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Larry, it says 3" bore X 4" stroke 1400rpm but no hp rating. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 12:38am
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Most early JD 2 cylinder tractors depended on gravity for cooling circulation. Cars and truck did it too in the 20s and 30s. Gerald J. |
Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 7:17pm
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I believe that gravity feed cooling is called a thermosiphon system, if I'm not mistaken. Thanks for the information, Lonnie. I appreciate it.------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 7:27pm
Those are both Allis engines,BE and CE, actually the engines are the same except the sleeve ID and the piston OD and maybe a governor spring. The HP went up on the CE engine when they cranked it to 1650 for the CA's. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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