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Topic: Traction Booster Gauge
Posted By: wkpoor
Subject: Traction Booster Gauge
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 5:37pm
7 CAs I'm up to and one has just the gauge holder. I'm guessing its nothing more than a hydraulic gauge ported into the remote housing. Never operated or been around a working one. Question is why would I need to see when pressure is being ported to the cylinders? When I plow I can hear and feel when the pump operats to lift the plow for draft control.



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Posted By: RSponenberg
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 6:32pm
I have a CA and 2 WD45s all of them have traction booster guages that work.Yes the guage is nothing more than a pressure guage.But the most important thing is the linkage on the drawbar this is what makes the weight transfer work,the guage is really just trivial.


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 6:50pm
My Ca never had a gauge and Dad never had any trouble plowing with it. I never used the TB gauge till I ran Ricks 45 in the lumpy plowed ground at Don's plow day. It really helps establish consistent working conditions quickly after turning . 

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Posted By: Boomer
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 7:00pm
Most of the time I go by the sound, but I have installed a normal gylcerin filled gauage on a WD45. The gauge is handy and would help fine tuning the traction boost setting. The gauge installed is from 0-5000 psi, which normal pumps run around 2500 to 3000 psi.


Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 7:07pm
I have a 0-5000 on the remote but of course I can't see it from the seat. But if I could see it what would I be looking for. I realize it would show pressure if the draft control lifted the plow to momentarily make it easier to pull the plow and thus maintain traction but how would that equate to a change in setting? My control rod from the hitch to the pump is adjusted per the book.


Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 7:22pm
Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

My Ca never had a gauge and Dad never had any trouble plowing with it. I never used the TB gauge till I ran Ricks 45 in the lumpy plowed ground at Don's plow day. It really helps establish consistent working conditions quickly after turning . 
That was some ruff plowing that day, hardest that ground has been for four years now.
It did melo out good this spring.
I have working gauges on my WD45's but I don't look at them just listen to the pump.
Don


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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 7:45pm
Originally posted by wkpoor wkpoor wrote:

. I realize it would show pressure if the draft control lifted the plow to momentarily make it easier to pull the plow and thus maintain traction but how would that equate to a change in setting? My control rod from the hitch to the pump is adjusted per the book.
The traction boost system was used to add weight to the rear tires for better traction. You can add all the weight of the plow to the back wheels without lifting the plow at all. There is a fine line between lifting all the weight of the plow and lifting the plow out of the ground. The gauge just helps find that in between point consistently. I think most guys that run a plow much with a WD or 45 can do what is needed by feel and sound. I guess the engineers wanted to try and make things easier.
 It used to be, you had to learn how the engine ran and heated up by using all your senses and adjust your fan speed and radiator cover to the daily conditions. Then somebody made a temperature gauge and added a thermostat. It just made things easier.


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Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 8:16pm
When I first started plowing with the CA I would do just that. I would raise the handle till I was actually loading the tractor with the plow but not lifting it. Then an old timer told me to leave the handle on the way down. Well then all you would see is some pressure when you hit a tough spot if you didn't spin out first.



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