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Topic: 220 pto speeds
Posted By: Brad Cober
Subject: 220 pto speeds
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 6:17pm
Iam looking at using my 220 to run a 10ft New Holland discbine.  The discbine is 540 and of course the 220 is 1000 rpm.  I am guessing I would need to run the 220 at around 17 - 1800 rpm to run the discbine ?  Will I have enough torque to run 5- 6 mph and run the discbine at that low rpm ?
 
Thanks for your help
 
Brad



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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 6:55pm
1000 pto rpm is about 2200 rpm on the engine......540 on the pto is 1188 rpm on the engine.


Posted By: Brad Cober
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 7:42pm

I am going to say that 1200 rpm will not run me 5 mph with the discbine under load.



Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 8:35pm
Should be 5.13 mph at 1188 rpm in 6th gear.....depends a little on rear tire size, but this would be with 18.4 x 38's.


Posted By: Amos
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 8:36pm
You may be surprised what it will do at 1200 rpm.  I run my round baler with my 210 like the way you are inquiring about and it will bale well into the red zone on the bale pressure gauge before the engine starts losing rpm. 

I am baling in 6th gear with 20.8 38 tire.


Posted By: kffischer
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 10:41pm
Some discbines had interchangeable gearboxes that could be flipped around for either pto input.  What model are you looking at? And what hitch/pto type is it?

karl f


Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 3:46pm
I'm with AMOS, that old 220 will just grunt a little more at 1200 RPM, than if it were up around 2200.  We ran the 190XT (1000 pto) with a 540 6 row shredder all the time at aroun 12-1500RPM, and all she did was snort a bit more, and used even less fuel doing it.

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Posted By: Brad Cober
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 6:19pm
I think I will give it a try.  I also need to check the tach to make sure it is accurate.
The 220 has 23.5 x 32.  Does anyone have a speed chart for that size tire?  I will probably run 12 - 1500 rpm and would like to be around 6 mph.
 
Thanks for all the help. 


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 6:42pm
18.4 x 38 is the same as 24.5 x 32 for speed.


Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 7:06pm
We run our auger on a 7000 at 1400 rpm. Maybe we are running to fast but it sounds about right. 


Posted By: WI D-21
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 10:00pm

a 1411 new holland discbine has a gearbox up front that can be flipped to make it a 1000 pto




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