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Topic: D-17 gas head
Posted By: TexasAllis
Subject: D-17 gas head
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 10:16am
Does anyone have a drawing (cutaway) of a D-17 gas head that shows the location of the water passages?



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Posted By: walters444
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2011 at 5:50pm
no pic.,,,,,  but i might be able to help 
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2011 at 9:03am
if your thinking on porting and wanting to know where the water is . the two places i usually hit it first at are at the bottm about a half inch in . At the top were the intake port tees or turns toward the intake valve.  Belzona 111 supermetal is your friend when doing port work on a 50 yearold porous cast iron head. some heads due to sand pits and rust over there life have real thin areas.

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Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 7:28am
I was thinking about building a spit manifold out of header pipe.  There are not many holes in the head to bolt a manifold to so I wanted to know if I drilled additional holes where can I drill and not hit water.


Posted By: Steve M C/IL
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 11:31am
Most if not all the current manifold studs go into the water jacket.....what's a couple more?


Posted By: wi50
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2011 at 12:05pm

just stay away from the ports a bit, but you won't be able to drill and put a bolt that close anyway.

I've added some manifold studs for header plates in several of the 201-226 type heads and never had a problem.  I've added extra holes around the intakes to hold a seperate fabricated intake manifold.  On one head I even put a couple holes out past the end exhaust ports for a bit of extra clamping.
here's an old pic of a manifold I made


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Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2011 at 7:29am
Originally posted by wi50 wi50 wrote:

just stay away from the ports a bit, but you won't be able to drill and put a bolt that close anyway.

I've added some manifold studs for header plates in several of the 201-226 type heads and never had a problem.  I've added extra holes around the intakes to hold a seperate fabricated intake manifold.  On one head I even put a couple holes out past the end exhaust ports for a bit of extra clamping.
here's an old pic of a manifold I made
 
Now thats what I am talking about.  A little more modifications than what I have planned but I like it.


Posted By: KGood
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2011 at 9:01am

Do you guys bevel out were the spark plug goes so it's not such a sharp hole sunk in the head(on the compression side). We do just because a guy told us we need to. It kinda makes sense to do that but I wondered if that was normal practice?  The guys at Rochester head shop drilled into two water passages for putting in bigger valves before they realized it. It was on a short head all they said was sorry we need a different one. 



Posted By: wi50
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2011 at 10:15am
tx allis,
you can see the studs I installed out past the end exhaust ports in that head if you look close in the picture you see a shiny stud in the end.
 
Kgood,
I flare the plug pockets some, it should help get the flame traveling a little easier, but alwayse wait untill the valve work has been done, sometimes they can get pretty close to the plug pockets. 


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