How to install snap rings on 185 spindles?
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Topic: How to install snap rings on 185 spindles?
Posted By: CaseyCreek
Subject: How to install snap rings on 185 spindles?
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 9:32pm
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I just finished reassembling the left spindle/wheel assembly on my Allis 185. Everything went okay except for reinstalling the snap ring at the top of the spindle. I have tried using pliers to stretch the ring around the spindle and even walked the snap ring up a cold chisel to stretch it far enough to go around the spindle. No luck. If any of you who know how to get that snap ring back on, I would really appreciate the benefit of your experiences. |
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Posted By: Gregor
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 9:40pm
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They make snap ring pliers. There are sereral different kinds of them and work real well. Otherwise I have never used anything else. |
Posted By: CaseyCreek
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 9:50pm
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I was thinking that pliers should be available for that, but I haven't been able to dig any out of our local auto parts houses or Harbor Freight. So, tractor dealership or NAPA?
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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 10:10pm
| If you cannot find pliers big enough, use two big screw drivers one on front side and one on back side and pry snapring up the taper and onto shaft. Have done it alot of times after giving up on pliers. MACK |
Posted By: bobkyllo
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 10:14pm
| you should be able to get a heavy duty snap ring pliers from napa. you can also make your own snap ring plier. if you have a crumby pliers weld on some round stock that fits in your snap ring. you can build it to any angle you need. |
Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 10:21pm
| Payed around $55 for a pair of SK pliers, well worth the dough, did end up grinding 1 edge down to get then into some tight spot inside the 175, sure made life alittle easier. |
Posted By: Eric[IL]
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 10:26pm
| I have a pair of inside/outside snap ring pliers. I don't remember the brand, but they are very handy. They have two push-locking pins which when pushed in proper sequence give you either an inside snap ring squeese of the handles or an outside snap ring squeese of the handes. Hence, you are always squeesing the handles together in either case. |
Posted By: Bret (OH)
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 11:57am
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These are called "Eaton" Type snap rings. Here is a link to a MAC product.
http://www.mactools.com/Product/tabid/120/productid/320434/variantid/311193/Default.aspx - http://www.mactools.com/Product/tabid/120/productid/320434/variantid/311193/Default.aspx
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Posted By: CaseyCreek
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 1:12pm
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Thanks to all who helped me on this. I sure wasn't getting anywhere with the tools I had in my toolbox. Calling the snap ring an Eaton type is much more practicable than the term I was using last night. ------------- D17 Series III,D17 Series IV, 185 |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 5:02pm
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I have Snap-On snap ring pliers and they work great but they're spendy. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 5:23pm
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Sounds like the ones with no hole in ring and just point on each end of ring.
They make a lower price unit I got from plumbing supply house for snap prings used on large pumps.
Might try a bearing supplier for the tool as they seem to have right toll for jobs or a place that handles truck parts as larger rings are used for trucks and transmissions.
McMaster Carr or Granger should also have something cheaper than MAC or Snap ON ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Gatz in NE
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2011 at 5:40pm
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Bought a Sears Internal/External convertible type and it works well for these types of snap rings. They are well-made.
Had to grind in a small divot in the points for the snap ring on my D17 spindles, and similar ones on the transmission front bearing retaining snap rings.
Wouldn't hurt to go to the next size bigger if you do alot of this kind of work.
Stay away from the import crap.....cuz that's just what they are.
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Posted By: CaseyCreek
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2011 at 5:42pm
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After all the help I received on this question, I thought I owed it to you guys to show you the solution I wound up choosing. I drove to my local Sears store and found these pliers for $14.99 plus tax. You guys saved me a lot of time and trouble. Thanks.   ------------- D17 Series III,D17 Series IV, 185 |