RKO & MF??
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Topic: RKO & MF??
Posted By: Larry(OH)
Subject: RKO & MF??
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 5:14am
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I was looking at the paper this morning before work and RKO (rural king ohio) has an ad on the back of their weekly flyer that says COMING SOON and 6 different pictures of MF tractors/mowers. Does anyone know if they are becoming a dealer or what may be going on. Our local MF dealer thats been there as long as I remember is just maybe 2 miles east of the RKO store. Seems kinda odd to me especially if AGCO is doing this and taking possible sales away from dealers. They have added another MF dealer here in Wayne CO when Maibach's added that line after the Orange was gone. Just rambling this morning, have a great day everyone.. ------------- '40 WC puller,'50 WD puller,'50 M puller '65 770 Ollie *ALLIS EXPRESS contact* I can explain it to you, BUT I cannot understand it for you!! |
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Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 7:07am
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Yep its true...
google is your friend: http://www.farm-equipment.com/pages/Industry-News---Massey-Ferguson-to-Sell-Lawn-and-Garden-Equipment-at-Rural-King.php - http://www.farm-equipment.com/pages/Industry-News---Massey-Ferguson-to-Sell-Lawn-and-Garden-Equipment-at-Rural-King.php
so AGCO will license its brand for a throw-away mower...couldnt happen to a nicer brand...AGCO must think they are like Deere..you know, put a Deere decal on a pile steaming poo and people will lap it up. To which I wish the late Sen Bentsen would be around to say: "Marty, I served with John Deere, I knew John Deere, John Deere was a friend of mine. Marty, you're no John Deere"
Also going to introduce Massey toys....hmm never bothered to do that with Allis stuff all these years...
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Posted By: Larry(OH)
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 10:19am
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They also had the 230 size and a 45hp 4wd with loader advertised also, so it seems as if they may be selling bigger tractors. The more I thought about it, I wondered if the dealer is in on it as another "market" forpeople that otherwise would not visit a dealer. i know the local repair/tire mechanics at RKO are not going to be doing well with repairs. I can see that coming ------------- '40 WC puller,'50 WD puller,'50 M puller '65 770 Ollie *ALLIS EXPRESS contact* I can explain it to you, BUT I cannot understand it for you!! |
Posted By: redline
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 10:50am
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Well, with the kind of reputation that Massey enjoys around here, they will fit right in with all of the chinese junk at the typical farm/fleet/home store. ------------- If it weren't for the last minute, I wouldn't get anything done! |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 7:10pm
| It said MF "branded" products not MF products, so at best another Murry/ MTD painted red & silver or more likely imports built to meet select price points. I'm not sure how this is supposed to get NA farmers to buy tractors? If they really want to sell lawn mowers they should make Challenger mowers with the CAT logo. Probably out sell Deere at the big box store. |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 10:08pm
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Somehow I don't think Cat would be too interested in a cheap, poor quality machine with their name on it for sale in a big box store. Except for all the junk they sell to promote the name. Does MF sell lawn tractors? I've never seen one other then in the long ago past. ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Larry(OH)
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 6:06am
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John, the ad shows theor mowers and even a Z-Turn also. I did not know Massey made z-turns. When I was a kid, dad had a Massey Ferguson 8 lawn tractor. That thing was built real good, and I remember him really liking the shaft driven mower deck. It was a good machine. My neighbor has a Massey 14 hydro with a 3 point set up on it and about every attachment one could buy. he bought it from a man in the area that had bought it all new. The older machines were built good, just as AC,IH,JD did in the late 60's, early 70's ------------- '40 WC puller,'50 WD puller,'50 M puller '65 770 Ollie *ALLIS EXPRESS contact* I can explain it to you, BUT I cannot understand it for you!! |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 7:07pm
Briggs and Stratton Mower Massey Ferguson 22hp 44" 2690913
I'm sure the zero turns will be made be someone besides Massey too. Wouldn't be surprised to see AGCO start a consumers division to to market more stuff like this. I'd speculate that even the larger L&G stuff won't be from AGCO unless possibly from a factory in the Ukrain or SA.
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Posted By: ncrc5315
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 7:21pm
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the massey lawn and garden tractors made by Simplicity?
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Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 7:32pm
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Looks like the Allis Chalmers mower with Massey paint to me. How can it be Chinese throwaway junk...?
AaronSEIA
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Posted By: ACmowerguy
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 8:41pm
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Rural King has been Selling the MF lawn line in selected stores for a number of years. It is a Simplicity built tractor. Ever since the mid 1960's there have ALWAYS been Massey Ferguson lawn and Garden tractors. First built by moto-mower, then AMF/Badger for the MF7 through 16, next was Snapper, then Ingersoll, and in the mid-1990's, Simplicity (a former AC company) began building the MF lawn and garden tractors. They were the same as Simplicity models with different paint and decals, just as the AGCO lawn line. http://www.masseylawn.com - www.masseylawn.com http://www.simplicitymfg.com - www.simplicitymfg.com
The Zero turn is a really stripped down Ferris (aslo a brand acquired by Simplicity) and the Lawn tractor pictured above is a Simplicity Broadmoor. Its still built pretty decent, metal hood, 1" diameter front steering spindles (some of the MTD are only 1/2")
As far as the impact on Massey dealers, at least around here there are no dealers for about 100 miles in any given direction. I found it funny that RK had signs taped to the tractors which read : "serviced by MF dealer" thinking, who is going to drive 100 miles for service, But what they fail to explain is that Simplicity dealers will probably do warranty service on these tractors, since they built them. Not all Massey Ferguson AG dealers have a Lawn and Garden contract, just as not all Agco dealers had a Lawn or Simplicity contract (even though many did)
It seems the Rural King stores do these products a disservice. They do not keep any literature on their mowers and the store associates are often incapable of answering questions and just refer you to MF's website, which they do not even provide. Even at HD, Loews or Sears, you can get product literature.
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Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 8:58pm
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Just FYI. Simplicity is now owned by Briggs and Stratton. Now called Briggs outdoor products(or BOP).
And to further anger AC fans like myself, Tractor supply now sells MF merchandise. Saw some T-shirts last weekend. Have a butt-ton of JD crap, also Farmall on anything you can imagine, and now Massive. No AC. Farmall is no longer put on farm equipment(that I know of), so why no Allis-Chalmers? Is Richenhagen doing this on purpose?
What i'd REALLY like to see is some JD and MF toilet paper. Now that would be something of theirs that I could actually get some use out of! ------------- I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me! |
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 9:24pm
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It's not that AGCO couldn't promote their orange tractors they just decided not to and try and kill the brand. |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 9:25pm
| Doesn't Briggs & Stratton own Murry too? |
Posted By: ACmowerguy
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:45pm
| Yes, Briggs acquired Murray first, through Murray's bankruptcy settlement. Then they acquired Simplicity Manufacturing which owned Snapper, Giant Vac, and Ferris. This has caused them to lose some engine sales as MTD, Husquavarna, and others see them as a direct competitor. MTD is now using chinese engines on some models. |
Posted By: abbaschild95
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2011 at 10:51pm
------------- Great-granfather's WC---- hopefully many more to come! |
DREAM wrote:Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 12:35am
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CIH has a line of Farmall tractors from around 35 to 85 HP. I looked at some at a farm show several years ago. I believe they are made in Turkey. Who builds Husquavara? Kind of funny how the small tractor/mower companies keep the brand name and even ad new brands (AC) instead of dropping them like some companies we know do. I just checked where the nearest MF lawn and garden dealer is - Loup City Ne, 338 miles away. The nearest Simplcity dealer is 36 miles away in Denver. Guess that's why I never see either brand around here. ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: mtanut
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2011 at 4:10am
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Husquavara was actually owned by Electrolux, I guess they are on their own again. Both are Swedish company's. Do a search on them and you will see they own Jonsereds, partner saws, McCullough, Polan, and a bunch of other names. They also have been building most of Sears stuff last few years. ------------- I have a 185 Allis, 6060 Allis, Model K gleaner, SMTA ferg 35, ferg 20 (paps first tractor, Allis B (wife's)John Deere 240 skid loader and a bunch of the usual farm stuff. |