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Topic: Save the rims, or sell the tires?
Posted By: Lanse
Subject: Save the rims, or sell the tires?
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 11:01am
Hey guys...

So, there are these two wheels laying around here which I want to do something with. They are both off a B sized tractor, and both are rusted out around the valve stem. Aside from that, they both look to be solid. 

I have two options here... I could sell them cheaply for the tires (which still have a lot of life left in them, theres a little cracking, but no major damage), or I could saw the tires off, sandblast the rims, and weld in a patch for the valve stems. I'm assuming that these rims are steel. 

What is the going rate for a patched, sandblasted and primed rear rim?? What about for tires like these, mounted to rusted out rims?? 

Wheel 1:



Wheel 2:



Thanks guys...



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Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 11:07am
I would sell them as is. Someone may want the tires. I don't believe you'll recoup your time and effort with pitching the tires and  patching rims, no matter how good a job you do. Patching and repairing for yourself is one thing, but to sell is waaayyyy different. IMHO

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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 11:07am
Toss the rubber and patch the rim.  Once you scrap them the time you will see them is in an irraradiated Toyota that took another US job.  My neighbor doesn't bat an eye at patching rims.


Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 11:12am
If you can get someone to take them, let alone pay for them as is do it. You can buy a new rim like that so cheap its not worth all that work


Posted By: Lanse
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 11:21am
They ask between $180 and $200 a rim on ebay, and since these aren't new, I'd ask for half of that, patched, sandblasted, and primed. I'm cool with making that in an afternoon...

Maybe I can even find a way to dismount the tires... Hmmm...


Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 11:22am
dismout the tires and save both.


Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 11:28am
It doesnt take long to dismount the tires. I just use a highlift fack and my one tone for wieght. the hight lift shoe breaks beads faster then most ways. My brother in law breaks them off with his log loader on a semi. doesnt even need to get off to flip over. but I don't have one at home to use.
 I do need one C rim. I've already proven that My patching skills are not up to Par. I patched it last year and it still won't stay tight so Its probaly not completly round.


Posted By: R Aiken
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 11:30am
Lanse.  I will come and get them, if the 9.5 is good enough, it looks to be the same as one on my C.  What do you want for them?  I could trade you some welding iorn.
 Richard


Posted By: chevytaHOE5674
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 11:33am
How many ply is that 9.5-24 tire? Where are you at? I might be interested if its a 6 or 8 ply in decent shape. 


Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 11:36am
I agree with others here on saving the tires and potentially selling them. You can muscle them off with a couple of spoons and some sweat, and make a scheckel or two.
 
Back to the rims. The better question to ask here would be, "How many people would pay half of new plus shipping for a repaired rim?" I think you'll find your target market will be very small.
 
I gotta say I admire your ambition and 'can do' attitude. Don't ever loose that.


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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 12:02pm
I'd probably dismount the tires, save everything until some cash came my way.The tires aren't a pair( ones a 10 the other a 9.5) so fussy guys will walk...
Rims need fixing anyway,especially to sell at some kind of 'profit'.
Keep the tires covered up, out the sun's rays will help.
 
If you really need something to pass your time, my D-14 needs a ringgear repair......
..yeah, right, like anyone's going to come here.....hahaha
 


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Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 12:32pm

Breaking beads on a tire is easy.   I have a loose ramp for my trailer.   I put the tire on the concrete laying flat, put the ramp on the edge of the tire, and then drive my truck up on the tire.  The key is to get the ramp (or a 2 x 12) tight up to the edge of the rim without being on the rim itself.    I even was dismounting the tires from the rims that I got from you Lanse, and I drove my truck up on one rim and let it sit the whole day while I was at work.   When I came home, it still wasn't popped off the bead so I took a 6' breaker bar and hit it a couple times right next to the bead and it popped off.   Flip the tire over and repeat.   They are easier to dismount if the rim is mounted on a tractor, but if you can mount or strap the rim to something, a set of spoons make some easy work. 



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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2011 at 11:00pm
Tires that hold air and rims with patches make project tractors roll while funds are being focused on sleeves and pistons, so save both.  Sell 'em as-is, or dismount, patch and remount.  obvioiusly it wont make you rich,  but will make a few coins, make some friends, give 'ya some exercise and experience, and help accelerate progress for those guys who live on very limited project budgets.

BTW- slick way to patch around the stem, is to patch the whole stem area, then drill a new stem hole in another area, where there's good meat and no weldment.


Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2011 at 1:32am
dismount the tires...sell 'em, weld the 2 rims together for a fire pit!



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