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thinking outside the box again

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Topic: thinking outside the box again
Posted By: mlpankey
Subject: thinking outside the box again
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 6:47pm
but need some help in brain storming it through.chevy head is 22 inches long 8 1/2 inches wide 226 /201 head 7 wide 21 long but they are some things in the right places


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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 7:36pm
What about head bolt locations? Seems like they aren't concentric. How about a 460 Ford head? The 351M-400 are kind of inbetween physical size of a 460 or Windsor style head. The Cleveland style heads are known for pretty good flow numbers.

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"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford


Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 8:18pm
Originally posted by Brian Jasper co. Ia Brian Jasper co. Ia wrote:

What about head bolt locations? Seems like they aren't concentric. How about a 460 Ford head? The 351M-400 are kind of in between physical size of a 460 or Windsor style head. The Cleveland style heads are known for pretty good flow numbers.
  that's is what i am needing help with is if they are another manufactured  head closer in physical width and length head bolt location isn't a problem . I will just drill and tap the deck for the head.

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Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 10:03pm
I have some Cleveland heads I can measure but no loose WD head to compare to.  Also have a cracked one you could have for comparison if you were closer.


Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 6:57am
Tractor pulling is about the money you put in it ,the power you get out , RIGHT ? Why not just start with a big chunk of material and make a head ,they do make machine's to do thing's like that .LOL


Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 10:05am
Originally posted by Jordan(OH) Jordan(OH) wrote:

I have some Cleveland heads I can measure but no loose WD head to compare to.  Also have a cracked one you could have for comparison if you were closer.
measure one up see if its close to 7 inches wide 21 inches long

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Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 10:37am
7-1/8 wide, 19-3/4 long.


Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 10:38am
Originally posted by Jordan(OH) Jordan(OH) wrote:

7-1/8 wide, 19-3/4 long.
thanks its to short.

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people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra



Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 11:08am
If you could find a 460 D0VE head commonly called a "dove" head, those are the best flowing 385 series head short of a Boss 429...

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"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford


Posted By: LloydCentWi
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 11:09am
I know you must be building a puller, but I've thought about how to convert the Allis 226 engine to a diesel. If the gas head could be modified to mount diesel injectors or if another head could be found to be bolted to the block. Just more of my day dreams.


Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 11:36am
Originally posted by LloydCentWi LloydCentWi wrote:

I know you must be building a puller, but I've thought about how to convert the Allis 226 engine to a diesel. If the gas head could be modified to mount diesel injectors or if another head could be found to be bolted to the block. Just more of my day dreams.
drill out the 14mm plug holes and install a injector

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Posted By: LloydCentWi
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 12:01pm
I was wondering about how that would work. Are there injectors that screw in or are they all held in with a plate with two bolts? Would also probably have to up the compression ratio inside the engine. How much compression could the stock internal parts, rods, cranks, pistons handle? Adding a turbo while at it would be a given as well.


Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 12:12pm
well i tried 15.1 comp on the buda rods at a little over 400 cubic inches and they didnt like it but mack says if i had them flame hardened to a 40 rockwell they wouldnt have bent. i guess it just depends on the injector you are looking at.

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