thinking outside the box again
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Topic: thinking outside the box again
Posted By: mlpankey
Subject: thinking outside the box again
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 6:47pm
but need some help in brain storming it through.chevy head is 22 inches long 8 1/2 inches wide 226 /201 head 7 wide 21 long but they are some things in the right places
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 7:36pm
What about head bolt locations? Seems like they aren't concentric. How about a 460 Ford head? The 351M-400 are kind of inbetween physical size of a 460 or Windsor style head. The Cleveland style heads are known for pretty good flow numbers.
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 8:18pm
Brian Jasper co. Ia wrote:
What about head bolt locations? Seems like they aren't concentric. How about a 460 Ford head? The 351M-400 are kind of in between physical size of a 460 or Windsor style head. The Cleveland style heads are known for pretty good flow numbers. | that's is what i am needing help with is if they are another manufactured head closer in physical width and length head bolt location isn't a problem . I will just drill and tap the deck for the head.
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Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 10:03pm
I have some Cleveland heads I can measure but no loose WD head to compare to. Also have a cracked one you could have for comparison if you were closer.
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Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 6:57am
Tractor pulling is about the money you put in it ,the power you get out , RIGHT ? Why not just start with a big chunk of material and make a head ,they do make machine's to do thing's like that .LOL
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 10:05am
Jordan(OH) wrote:
I have some Cleveland heads I can measure but no loose WD head to compare to. Also have a cracked one you could have for comparison if you were closer. | measure one up see if its close to 7 inches wide 21 inches long
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Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 10:37am
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 10:38am
Jordan(OH) wrote:
7-1/8 wide, 19-3/4 long. | thanks its to short.
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 11:08am
If you could find a 460 D0VE head commonly called a "dove" head, those are the best flowing 385 series head short of a Boss 429...
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Posted By: LloydCentWi
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 11:09am
I know you must be building a puller, but I've thought about how to convert the Allis 226 engine to a diesel. If the gas head could be modified to mount diesel injectors or if another head could be found to be bolted to the block. Just more of my day dreams.
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 11:36am
LloydCentWi wrote:
I know you must be building a puller, but I've thought about how to convert the Allis 226 engine to a diesel. If the gas head could be modified to mount diesel injectors or if another head could be found to be bolted to the block. Just more of my day dreams. | drill out the 14mm plug holes and install a injector
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Posted By: LloydCentWi
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 12:01pm
I was wondering about how that would work. Are there injectors that screw in or are they all held in with a plate with two bolts? Would also probably have to up the compression ratio inside the engine. How much compression could the stock internal parts, rods, cranks, pistons handle? Adding a turbo while at it would be a given as well.
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Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2011 at 12:12pm
well i tried 15.1 comp on the buda rods at a little over 400 cubic inches and they didnt like it but mack says if i had them flame hardened to a 40 rockwell they wouldnt have bent. i guess it just depends on the injector you are looking at.
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