Front Axle
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Topic: Front Axle
Posted By: OrangeKiwi(NZ)
Subject: Front Axle
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 4:59pm
This tractor has appeared for sale on a NZ website. At first glance it looks to me like a model CA but no tractors of this model came to NZ. I know the photo isn't very clear but can forum members make out whether it's a genuine CA axle ? Maybe it's a wide front off a WD or WD45 ?
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 5:09pm
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How can you be 100% sure none ever came ? You wouldn't believe how easy it is to import/export 'stuff', especially 20,30 40 years ago......
------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 5:14pm
| That is a C the C has an adjustable wide front looks much like a CA. The Wheel leaning against the Wall is For a C A CA has Power Shift Wheels. and 6 Lugs instead of 5 On A C |
Posted By: OrangeKiwi(NZ)
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 5:17pm
We have a list of the original owners compiled by the NZ distributors. No CA's appear on this list and I haven't heard of any recent importations. |
jaybmiller wrote:Posted By: OrangeKiwi(NZ)
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 5:22pm
I noted the wheel centre of the tyre leaning against the wall, too. So Dave, you're saying there was a wide adjustable axle for the model C ? |
Posted By: Dave Everett
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 5:26pm
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Yep
I had one here in England also
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Posted By: ALinIL
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 5:36pm
| BTW you can also verify that it has a 3 speed trans. |
Posted By: OrangeKiwi(NZ)
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 5:50pm
| Learn something new every day. I didn't think there was an adjustable front axle for a model C but I've just found a photo of one in Norm's book. Thanks for the comments. |
Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 9:06pm
| You can also see the C seat, same as a B. Bob |
Posted By: allis restorer
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 9:11pm
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and a CA has a Platform also the C did not. Steve ------------- Go orange or Go home!! |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 9:31pm
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Somebody enlighten us on the front wheel centers. They look like a cast wheel center. The fenders are different too. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: OrangeKiwi(NZ)
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 3:45pm
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Charlie, I'm too far away (wrong island) to view the tractor but I think the front axle centres are off the early B's (1938 and 1939) The fenders are home made.
Because we think the front axle is factory made, I hope the tractor doesn't get an one way ticket to China. Current bidding stands about one third of scrap price. 
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Posted By: EricPA
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 3:53pm
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Posted By: OrangeKiwi(NZ)
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 4:36pm
| They do some strange things in that other island LOL |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 4:43pm
| I'd like to see the rest of the Chebby truck in the background. |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 4:59pm
| Do I see an extra hole in the hood in the second pic and is that a starting tank where the battery goes? I'd sure like to have those seat springs and a piece of the material if it's original. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 10:18pm
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Eric, the wheel center can be bolted on either direction cupped in or cupped out so the one leaning against the wall could go on either side and still have the tyre facing the "right" direction. The spacing would be wider mounted on the left. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 11:46am
Most of the model C's that you find in WA and surrounding states are wide fronts or single fronts. I have 4 or 5 wide front C's, 4 single front C's and one narrow front C. The wide front alone should be worth $3-400. Good luck! ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 11:58am
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I was wondering about the cast front wheels also, I never saw anything like that except on a G. Could someone have imported it themselves. Maybe got fed up with the US and immigrated to NZ. Or maybe just built it out of odds and ends AC parts. It would be shame to send it to China.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 3:10pm
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It might be that New Zealand had import laws like Australia. If you were to import a Studebaker, since the starter and generator could be purchased in Australia you could not import them with the vehicle. So if there was a manufacturer that made front wheels to fit, maybe you could not bring in the Allis wheels. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 5:54pm
| No CA cultivator mounting bosses in the radiator shroud. Definately C wide front. |
Posted By: OrangeKiwi(NZ)
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 6:32pm
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JohnCO, I have 2 1938 B's with cast front wheel centres so I think it's like you said, a tractor made with many AC parts.
Charlie, NZ import laws weren't like Australia's. Our AC came fully assembled but had to contend with high tariffs (making them pricey) to protect English Fordsons and Internationals from competition. I think I have a local (to the tractor)interested in buying it. To save it from scrap. I may do a deal later if transport can be arranged ? |