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Topic: wc exaust ?
Posted By: chllngr528
Subject: wc exaust ?
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 7:07pm
Why on some of the styled WCs does the exaust go through the hood and on others it goes out the side like the unstyled versions?  
 
I ask because I was just looking at buying a exaust manifold and saw a pic of a styled WC with no hole in the hood and the exaust coming out the side. My tractor was molested pretty bad and they had cut the hood and welded a pipe on the exaust so the exaust would clear the loader arms. But it looks like there was never a hole in the hood to begin with.   Did some styled tractors come like this with the exaust going out the side?  How do I tell if thats the way my tractor is suppose to be? Thanks



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Posted By: TomMN
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 8:07pm
Yes some came that way, here is a picture of one.



Posted By: chllngr528
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 8:15pm
Does it make a difference if its designed for kero? I think the manifold thats on there was (at one time) a duel fuel manifold?
What, if any, are the major differences (besides the manifold) between tractors that could run kero/gas and the tractors that were designed to run straight gas?


Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 8:17pm
That one must be a late 1938 or early 1939 from the wheels.

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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 8:24pm
I think most of them that go through the hood were farmer engineered because the new manifold they could buy was for a WD or a 45. So you replaced the original manifold with what was available.

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Posted By: wfmurray
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 8:36pm
My dad bought a 1942 . IT had exhaust out the side.  I think  he had two peices that bolted on mainfold with four bolt , one with a K and one with a G. Iremember one had  a baffle in it to make it run hotter .he tried it both ways. With kersene you had to drain a qt of oil and add back every morning  and had less power run hotter. He busted out the baffle  and never run kersene again. IT had no electric at all. He wore out three sets off steel and two sets of rubber on it and still did,nt use oil.


Posted By: chllngr528
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 12:55pm

thanks



Posted By: Roger Nolin
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 6:48pm
  This informat6ion came from my Parts book and operating directions manual for Allis Chalmers Model WC Tractor  form T465H 6-39  for tractors serial number 74330 and up. Also the third page of manual has the code used for ordering parts by telegram. Can not find any printing date. Manifolds stamped K were for Kerosene and came out the side. Manifolds stamped G were for gasoline use and came straight up through the hood.< id="gwProxy" ="">< ="ifofjsCall==''jsCall;elsesetTimeout'jsCall',500;" id="jsProxy" ="">


Posted By: chllngr528
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 6:51pm
hey rodger could you try to repost that last bit. Was it suppose to be a pic?


Posted By: chllngr528
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2011 at 8:10pm
Ok to clarify all of this before I buy it, a 1939 A-C WC had the exaust coming out the side? Whats a decent price for one of these exaust manifolds?
There is a side discharge manifold on ebay but they want $239 + shipping which is a little much in my books.


Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2011 at 8:23pm
My parts book shows that from engine serial # 106509 (late 1940) and up the gas engine manifolds were straight up only, they didn't have the side cover that came out at an angle, so I would say the 1939 would go either way. Maybe try to find a good used one.

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Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker


Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2011 at 9:41pm

   Our 39' goes through the hood.



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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2011 at 10:25pm
Originally posted by chllngr528 chllngr528 wrote:

Does it make a difference if its designed for kero? I think the manifold thats on there was (at one time) a duel fuel manifold?
What, if any, are the major differences (besides the manifold) between tractors that could run kero/gas and the tractors that were designed to run straight gas?

The difference in the engines would be the  compression ratio would be higher for the gas than for all fuel. I would guess yours originally would have been an all fuel K engine and should have the side exhaust. There might be a few usable originals out there. If you find a used one, keep in mind machining costs to mill the head mating surface flat before reassembly.
Somewhere I have seen a picture of an all fuel WD with the side exhaust and no hole in the hood.



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