What's wrong with this picture?
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Topic: What's wrong with this picture?
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Subject: What's wrong with this picture?
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:03pm

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Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:04pm
800 Work Master was a Ford.JP
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Posted By: Matt MN
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:14pm
Missing side panel?
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:25pm
No snow on the ground ?
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Posted By: Joe(IA)
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:35pm
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:41pm
Well you might all be right.....but I was wrong. I was thinking all the black stripe tractors had the front pump and forward axle, but I was doing some looking in the good book and see that this hood is correct for that axle also on the 175. Now I just need to figure out if it has the 4.236 or 4.248 Perkins in it.....
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Posted By: Matt MN
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 10:00pm
according to the "Bible" on the 175's the 4.248 replaced the 4.236 in December of 1970 at serial # 1459. And the front mounted Hyd. pump and set back front axle in 1973 at serial # 2035.
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 10:03pm
Looks like 576 old style fronts had the bigger motor in them.....thanks
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Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 10:07pm
Ram is bowed downward too.
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Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 3:01am
Nothing wrong with the cylinder in that position, still just as strong and the plumbing is cleaner that way as all the lines run down the loader boom.
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 6:53am
Also keeps water and 'grit' from pooling around the seal and getting inside. Did that 'upside down' install on my Jeep with snowplow and NEVER had to rebuild the lift cylinder.
oh, what's really wrong in the picture....
... tractor's in the WRONG driveway !!!
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Posted By: Tony Elo
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 9:11am
Here I thought the muffler wasn't black
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Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 9:29am
Eldon (WA) wrote:
Now I just need to figure out if it has the 4.236 or 4.248 Perkins in it..... |
If it is like the 6.354 (I Thin) in the masseys it should be stamped next to the injection pump on the block.
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 9:48am
The serial number for the engine can be found on the right side of the block near the head, towards the front.
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 10:04am
it's sitting outside in the rain!!!
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Posted By: Dans 7080
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 1:05pm
We have a GB 880 Workmaster on a 200 and the cylinders are mounted the same way.
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Posted By: Steve M C/IL
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 1:05pm
Don't leave seat with loader in raised position? That is unsafe!LOL
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 9:43pm
Denis in MI wrote:
Eldon (WA) wrote:
Now I just need to figure out if it has the 4.236 or 4.248 Perkins in it..... |
If it is like the 6.354 (I Thin) in the masseys it should be stamped next to the injection pump on the block. |
Got this one home yesterday....it has a metal plate above the injector pump with the numbers stamped on it. Looks like a more modern engine, it has one of those yellow warning decals on the valve cover...engine is painted black (so it just looks oily in the pics). Uses a solenoid fuel shut-off like modern engines. Runs good now that I got the sediment bowl screen cleaned. Supposed to only have 100 or so hours on it, but the seller tells me when I pick it up that he just had the injector pump rebuilt....don't make sense.
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Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 9:50pm
Gonna leave the loader on? Bout time you had a 170/175 with a loader Eldon. Nice find.
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 9:56pm
Yes I checked it out today and my rotovator will still cover the RH tracks with the wheels set out wide enough to clear the loader frame. I get some tilling jobs where a customer wants some other loader work done while I'm there, so this will be the tractor for jobs like that. It is heavy, tho! I'm thinking 10k with the tiller on the back. It is a little bulky, but I'll get used to it....
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Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 10:42pm
Nice find! I gotta say saw looking at that pic makes me think about where tractor design has gone. Now I love my Orange for sure, but fast forward 20+yrs or so and what an improvement there has been. That tractor has real close HP specs to my JD5400 that also has a loader on it. But.....loader only fastens in one place on either side, totally hydraulic steering and front end is mounted on 2 massive trunions. Whole tractor is less than 2/3 the size and is real nibble to drive. With loaded rears its right at 10K. Loader and attachments (bucket, grapple, forks)all quick tach. But......yes that 175 does look better hehehehe.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 5:53am
A 175 should be total hydraulic steering too. One day I'll have a 170 or 175 to mount my 2250 CaseIH loader on. D19 just isn't meant for a loader.
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Posted By: smokey
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 6:29am
Nice find Eldon, that is a good tractor 175 is a all-around tractor, My Dad bought new in 1974 had to order it and when it came in it didn't have the black strip nor say crop hustler on the side panels, the dealer said they would get them, never happened none the less been good tractor around 9000 hr's motor still running stong.
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