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Topic: cracked rim WD

Posted By: BearcatnorthMN
Subject: cracked rim WD
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 5:50pm

I have been moving a lot of snow this winter with my trusty WD. I plow with my 4-wheeler and then move the piles back with the WD to give me more storage room for the next snow. Works great. Well I noticed I have a cracked front rim. It is actually broken between 2 bolt holes. I checked the lug bolts and those 2 are stripped out. I put 2 smaller bolts with nuts and washers on for now. I plan on welding the rim. Is that going to work? Won't make it to brittle will it. The shame of it all is it is the nice cream colored rim. The other one is much older and orange. It was like that when I bought the WD 5 years ago. It has been a great tractor for me. I do think about upgrading to a D-17 or D-15 with a wide front and loader some day.

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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 6:09pm

Welding the rim shouldn't affect it at all, I've welded many pickup rims with no problems.

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Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 6:16pm

With the proper heat setting and penatration your weld should be stronger then new. Sounds like the crack was caused by the stripped threads. I would look for a good used hub. A little lube on the lug bolts and the proper torq should take care of it.

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Posted By: BearcatnorthMN
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 6:23pm

Yes you are right Dave. Anyone know what a front hub for a 51 WD is worth??

Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 7:07pm

Funny thing on lube, I had changed out some tires on dump truck and when putting nuts back on studs used a dab of never-sieze on them. Had a blowout and had to get another tire mounted at dealer. Well they replaced the studs and nuts as said (DOT) federal law does not allow lubricant of any kind on wheel fixing devices.

Welding the rim on tractor should not be a problem, but on a on-road viehicle any repairs on rims will not meet safety rules.. Out of service on commercial viehicles where repairs are found.

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Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 7:13pm

I welded the front Rim on my C that had a front plow on it. It lasted a few years before it cracked someplace else. A wheel that has been cracked has had extra stress on the rest of the wheel. the welded part should be as strong as the original.

Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 7:47pm

If you chase the threads with a tap and die you can get them tightend properly. However a little rust or just dry dirty threads will bind and you will think they are tight but they cause the holes in the rim to ware out or crack. never sieze or oil works and is quicker then tap and die if you can get away with it.

I wonder why DOT won't alow oil?

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Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 8:36pm

Barry, you should be able to find another hub relatively cheap. I think I might have one or two around here with good threads. You can also run longer threaded wheel bolts through the hub and then put a nut on the backside, or you could take the hub that you got and run threaded studs through from the backside. That was done on one of the hubs on my D17 and it works really good. The worst is drilling the holes out properly but with a hub, you could take it off and put it on a drillpress.

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Posted By: BearcatnorthMN
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 10:00pm

Hey thanks for all of the info guys. I will do the weld with longer bolts and nuts program... If I decide to get a new hub I will get a hold of you Dave.. Thanks

Posted By: BearcatnorthMN
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 10:01pm

Sorry I meant Chuck... lol