what do you hate bout tractors
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Topic: what do you hate bout tractors
Posted By: acd21man
Subject: what do you hate bout tractors
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 6:26pm
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i hate the comfort king CASE period lol i hate the IH cabs and the clutch on them, i hate most fords seems like there made for ppl dif from me lol(u just cant beat a wd or a d17 and up to the 8000's lol iv drove almost every kind of tractor out there cause dad trades a lot on them ,,,and JD's 4440 air ride seat is great lol ) ------------- 2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw |
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Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 6:34pm
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The JD 2 cylinders with the jerky hand clutch, and the brake pedals which are right next to the seat and hard to get to.
------------- 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52 |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 6:46pm
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Ford 2n, 8n, and 9n....They were just short of worthless....no hydraulics, less brakes, underpowered, and easy to flip over backwards....Ford didnt build a good tractor until the Jubilee series...I think the 600 Series is what they were.
------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 7:34pm
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I don't hate any tractor, as far as I am concerned it beats doing farm work by hand or using horses. I have tractors I dislike but none that I hate.
Just my opinion,
Denis ------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14 |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 7:35pm
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not having enough of the orange ones! ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: WD45Diesel57
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 7:39pm
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Iam another one against the old JD two cylinder tractors, the steady thumping and shaking of the engine, jumpy clutch and those dumb brakes so far back if you have big feet you cant hit them fast enough. those engineers really shoulda done there research on that one lol.
just my rant
Allen
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Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 7:42pm
I agree, once you've had an orange one its hard to find anything you like about another brand. ------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500 |
Orange Blood wrote:Posted By: wfmurray
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 8:26pm
| What i hate on my B is the pto and lift run at the same time .Have a finish mower and blades run when picked up or transporting from one place to another. |
Posted By: Daehler
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 8:28pm
| Not enough room in JD cabs, and cant get in them. Also cant speed shift a JD any like an Allis. |
Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 8:29pm
| I never had a problem with JD Hand clutches. When moving tractors from the show to the storage shed for my friends they seem to be quite easy to drive...minus the break locations. I guess you have to have them adjusted just right, I'm sure its not hard to do. |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 8:52pm
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I hate that tractor batteries are always in the worst place to get at...and always go dead at the worst time....and that tires go flat.... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 10:30pm
| I hate that my bank acount is to small, so therefor I can't buy more tractors to put in the shed, because the shed is to small to put more tractors into. The shed is to small because my bank acount isn't large enough to afford to buy another. I hate this circle. |
Posted By: allis restorer
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 10:37pm
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I dont know why everyone dislike the john deere 2 cylinders, the first tractor i ever drove was a John deere B when i was 7 years old. i thought it was the greatest thing, even to this day i would take a john deere G for pulling wagons all day than any other tractor, i have back problems so i like the old John deere's there so comfortable to stand up on and drive. My most hated tractor is the Massey 135, they shift hard, steer hard, the clutch is in a akward position, i just hate them. ------------- Go orange or Go home!! |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 10:46pm
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I didn't like the JD B because the steering wheel was almost torn out of my little hands when I hit a bump.....but I loved the MF 135D with PS that my dad bought in the early 70's. He only bought it because he wanted the MF chopper and the owner would only sell them as a pair. I remember starting it up in the Quanset the first winter we got it when my dad was gone....can still remember the smell of the cold diesel smoke that filled the barn.....and hoped it would clear by the time he got home! Later I loved running down the road with oversized rear tires...with the multi-power that tractor would do close to 30 mph with unloaded 14.9's on it! ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: DaveCinIN
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 10:47pm
| I hate foreign tractors. There are perfectly good ones made here. |
Posted By: split51
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 10:52pm
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I hate not getting to spend more time working and playing with my tractors. ------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo |
Posted By: Reeseholler
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 10:56pm
| John Deere's steering is horrible. Allis has the best steering. In defense of deere's clutches, a well adjusted clutch will not grab or be touchy. If the clutch discs are in good shape it's just like a foot clutch only with a lever. The thing I don't like is that everybody is a "fan" of one type or another. I like them all so I'm neutral in a conversation but to me the bias gets old after awhile. |
Posted By: 79fordblake
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 11:21pm
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In defense of Deere yet again, I still don't understand all the complaints. All mine are narrow front, they steer great, you can slip them into the next gear while moving with no problems, I love the hand clutch, and the brakes on them will stop almost anything. Again so everybody knows I have Allis Chalmers and John Deeres, and I love both, lol. I don't really hate anything but I do wish I had the aftermarket hydraulic pump that runs of f the governor of the A so it would have live hydraulics. Also wondered why didn't they ever change the WD45 to true "live" hydraulics instead of having to use the hand clutch. |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 11:26pm
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I'll have to admit my wife's 520 has a real smooth clutch, brakes work great and the power steering with roll-shift front end cured the old steering problems.... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Reeseholler
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 11:27pm
| The steering on the A's is pretty good. Dad's 70 and the 50 we had weren't that good. Very hard to turn when sitting still. Despite that, if a two cyl runs good (better than most that you see at shows), I think they sound pretty purdy. |
Posted By: 79fordblake
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 11:33pm
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I have two A's that are standard narrow front and one is rollo-matic. I can be plowing and hit all kinds of bumps and the one with the rollo-matic front end will never jerk the wheel in your hand, but the others don't really do it that bad, I just make sure I have a firmer grip when using them. |
Posted By: 79fordblake
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 11:46pm
I wish I had a 520. One of my friends has one. 1958, his dad bought it new, farmed with it a couple seasons and he decided to stop farming for health reasons. Has sat in a barn its whole life, only been started a couple times after he stopped farming. I think those little 520s are like cadillacs. Kinda like a WD45, they are small but they will do so much. |
Posted By: Rick
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 11:46pm
| ...the fact that I don't have enough of 'em!!! |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 6:39am
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I like my JD 720D. I like my D19D too. I think that old 720 would work right next to the D19 in the field ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: mike 44
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 7:54am
| ...... i hate any foregin tractor (fendts) or for that matter anything new. love the old ones .... i wouldn't own a massey if it was the last tractor on earth.... can't stand them... nothing beats my ih and ac's love them.. fords and jd are ok depending the model |
Posted By: Dave Richards (WV)
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 8:12am
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We were raised with all kinds of tractors. The 36 Silver King is still a favorite even though I had to crank start at 11 years old. Not many "starting Hills" in North Central Ohio, but we had a small one near the barn that worked if everything was tuned right. We used the 2n Fords in the orchards. Good little tractor for that. You had to know not to pull a chain with the 3pt hitch and you had to keep the left brake adjusted so you could activate it with the clutch petal. We farmed with WCs. My uncle still blames his bad hip on using the clutch with that off set seat. I understand why some don't like the little fords, but if you worked and orchard where you had to get on and off a lot, you sure would cuss that little Allis B. |
Posted By: Good
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 8:12am
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I hate the rock trip mechanism for the JD 2 cyl's. It throws the hand clutch right into your knee cap. Only john deere could get by with something like that and only john deere lovers would think it was no big deal. I know two people personally that have had that happen. ------------- B212,716,two 314H's,WC,WD,D19,190XT |
Posted By: Embellem
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 12:58pm
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Hate is a strong word, but I'll say two things that I wish were different on my ACs: 1. Wish I didn't have to have the PTO running on my CA to use the hydraulics to lift the bellymower to get out of the barn. Too often there is a corner of a tarp or something else just out of my sight that is under the mower and gets chopped up when I go to lift it to pull out of the barn. 2. The hand clutch on the WD is exactly where my right knee needs to go. |
Posted By: patrickmull
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 1:07pm
| i dont hate any tractors as long as im on one |
Posted By: bill2260
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 3:45pm
| I don't hate, but it hurts to fill them up with fuel. And it's going to get worse, Bill |
Posted By: oldironguy
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 4:05pm
| Oil leaks. I hate oil leaks! |
Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 4:30pm
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Flat tires and dead batteries! ------------- You don't really have to be smart if you know who is! |
Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 6:36pm
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Farm Pro or any Chinese built tractor. REAL junk ------------- The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend? |
Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 6:53pm
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i mean the options on them not just the tractor alltogether like were brakes are and seat placement stuff like fuel consumption lol ------------- 2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw |
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 9:17pm
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I'm not a fan of the off center seat on the AC's....I understand it had to do with Row Cropping but why did AC stay with it so long? No one else really ran anything with offset seating.
------------- Central PA Allis Express 1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 9:41pm
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I hate to pay for fuel and see most of the money go to the wack jobs in the middle east ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2011 at 10:03pm
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I hate the fact that Agco don't make orange tractors anymore. ------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:43am
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I hate hydraolic power brakes there nice when they work but it seems when you need them the most they dont pump up right away and you eather dont turn or you run into something! ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: roughstock
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 12:12pm
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The only thing I hate is when I get grief about not buying a John Deere from people who never owned a tractor. Oh yeah, and dead batteries. Brian |
Posted By: MilesGray (CO/KS)
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 12:43pm
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Taking a tractor apart for maintenance to fix a problem and finding out afterwards that the problem I fixed was just part of the problem! Still love working on them though! ------------- Miles Gray (CO/KS) 5 1938 B's, 1940 B, 1944 WF C, 1948 NF C, Gleaner A, White Top Rotobaler, 1957 IH Golden Jubilee... I'm either a collector, or crazy! |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 12:58pm
There's an adjustment for that hand clutch if I remember right. A threaded rod at the bottom of the clutch handle. My WD would do it until I replaced the bushings and adjusted the linkage. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: ICTRCTR
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 4:05pm
| The purdy orange AC,s that SOMEONE else owns. |
Posted By: OrangePowerFranzen
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 10:26pm
| i really dont hate any tractor, i just dislike farmall. ive restored a wd-45, helped with a d-21, d-17 gas, d-14, cub cadets, a farmall f-14, farmall m, and this year a john deere unstyled b. I like the features on my wd-45 as its the best tractor that i have. when i was restoring the farmall m i just always wondered about the stupid ideas that they had. 3 different cam bearing sizes and just little things that pissed me off. I do like how fast they go and they are a comfortable riding tractor. I like every kind of tractor but my favorite is allis chalmers because they had the best ideas and a tractor that would always get the work done. I think that theres not any bad tractor out there, i like to learn about every brand and very wide open with them. every company had great ideas. |