The Five Acre Failure
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Topic: The Five Acre Failure
Posted By: Claus
Subject: The Five Acre Failure
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 6:00pm
Sad video with some sad Allis Chalmers tractors in need of a rescue. This guy almost seems proud of all the stuff he has let go to pot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_f1ci2hhUo&feature=relmfu - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_f1ci2hhUo&feature=relmfu
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Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 6:15pm
That guy makes me sick!
------------- David Gibson http://www.darkecountysteam.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.darkecountysteam.com 1956 WD45
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Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 6:19pm
Yup well at least he is trying to restore one...
------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
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Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 6:28pm
He sounds like a real loser. Maybe if he had an ounce of ambition the place wouldn't be such a hellhole.
------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2
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Posted By: RyanTN
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 6:33pm
He's a member of this forum. Last logged in two days ago. He gets "beat up" pretty regularly here and the on "the other site" because of his videos, posts and ideas. Not a bad guy, just a young guy in his late teens, maybe twenty trying to get life figured out. He's learned much in the past couple of years, (kind of like some of our other teenage members).
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Posted By: caRon
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 6:56pm
Whatched a video of his taking a saw zaw to a perfectly good AC B tractor, then chaining up the tranny and dragging it around for fun. I'll not comment.
------------- CA Tractor
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Posted By: ALinIL
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 7:02pm
Sounds like he needs attention. Maybe a kick in the would help, but I'm afraid that you might damage your foot.
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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 7:03pm
I made it about 2 minutes into the video. How pathetic would your life have to be to make anything that stupid and then post it on the internet, has to be a complete moron.
------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker
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Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 7:09pm
It's not me!!!! I'll say that right away!
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 7:18pm
What a "Dead A-- Loser", holy crap butt man what a moron, what does he expect if he does nothing but you tube video his escapades? Lazy worthless idiot.
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Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 7:37pm
Natural selection at its best. If an AC can survive this it can survive anything.
------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500
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Posted By: TEDMI
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 7:43pm
This guys name is lanse , he is a 17 year old kid , why dont you give him a brake, he has had some tough luck , I myself am kind of proud of lanse he has taken on some pretty good projects and I hope he is doing well .
TEDMI.
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Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 7:46pm
Poor tractors...
------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
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Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 7:48pm
Sounds like he had a bad gas can sealer job. Probably doesn't have a lot of money to throw at hobbies. At least he has one tractor inside and the cars out. His place looks better than most in my county and mine on a bad day. I didn't finish the video as I didn't care for the swearing but I swore more than that before I became a Christian. Not everyone on here is 50 and has all their debts paid off and can put money into hobbies. Cut him some slack. Would you rather him put a video up of how he's blowing people away on his play station? Bunch of critical, holy than though, screw balls on here sometime.
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Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 7:59pm
The WC goes to scrap heaven in a newer video.
B with hand brakes goes in a another video.
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Posted By: ACscott
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 8:07pm
Give him a break, I don't really like all the swearing he does either.I'm sure all of you were perfect when you were young. He has made progress and his new videos are really good. Do you really need to call him a dead beat and a moron when you have seen one video.
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Posted By: OrangePowerGA
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 8:09pm
According to his youtube channel page he's 27 but acts more like 17.
I'd like to kick his *** for scrapping that 34 WC!
What poor attitude on life and a lack of respect for the farm his family has worked.
------------- AC - WD JD - 650
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Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 8:10pm
I regret posting this thread. I never did call him any names or mean to offend. Just thought it was a sad video of some sad tractors and what looks like it was a nice farm at one time.
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Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 8:22pm
This guy posted the videos for all to see. Now all can form a opinion. I don't think anybody is pointing fingers at the messenger.
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Posted By: Dave A
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 8:37pm
wounder if he has a dad or mom that gives a dam.
------------- Play the game for more than you can afford to lose... only then will you learn the game.
Winston Churchill
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Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 8:46pm
The video that bothers me is the scrapping of the wc. That was a shame.
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Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 8:54pm
Well i changed my other posts because they were kinda mean but I personally do not like him at all! And for multiple reasons and they are not all because of this one video. And i agree with others that he posted this nonsese on youtube and that means that everyone can state there oppion and nobody should blame claus for posting this.
------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
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Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 8:58pm
Tough croud, maybe this guy just needs someone to take him by the hand and lead him in the right direction.
------------- The universal answer to all questions is yes, how much do you want to spend?
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Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 8:59pm
The part that made me sick was the animals. I'm sure we have all had tractors that had to wait outside for their turn. I could have done without the swearing also.
------------- David Gibson http://www.darkecountysteam.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.darkecountysteam.com 1956 WD45
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Posted By: niel ev
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 9:05pm
All I have to say is ifhe don't like the acsgive them to some one who will get them running again . If he's still young he,ll grow upand maybe regret it getting rid of them Niel
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Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 9:17pm
R.W wrote:
Well i changed my other posts because they were kinda mean but I personally do not like him at all! And for multiple reasons and they are not all because of this one video. And i agree with others that he posted this nonsese on youtube and that means that everyone can state there oppion and nobody should blame claus for posting this. |
I changed mine too. But I completely agree with you. And the WC scrapping video is a real hit below the belt to me because of I know all of us on here put a lot of love and money into preserving these American Icons and to see someone hauling them off is just dumb.
I know he is just 17 (apparently) but so am I and I know way better than to throw away tractors and refuse to talk like that. I wonder if things would be different if he actually knew what he was sending to the scrap yard?
------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500
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Posted By: Reeseholler
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 9:23pm
Some ambition, some stupidity but we all aren't perfect. You have to give him credit for trying. I don't agree with everything he does but everybody can say the same about me.
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Posted By: Breeze
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 9:39pm
Lots of good, going bad right there as he laughs it off. Claus thanks for posting. I was thinking that I had heard Lanse's story before but just cant put the story I've heard with the actions and attitude I witnessed in the video, though I do wish him luck. Maybe he'll grow up and realize what he doesnt seem to care about. The value of anything, even life.
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Posted By: RyanTN
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 9:51pm
AllisChalmers37 wrote:
R.W wrote:
Well i changed my other posts because they were kinda mean but I personally do not like him at all! And for multiple reasons and they are not all because of this one video. And i agree with others that he posted this nonsese on youtube and that means that everyone can state there oppion and nobody should blame claus for posting this. |
I changed mine too. But I completely agree with you. And the WC scrapping video is a real hit below the belt to me because of I know all of us on here put a lot of love and money into preserving these American Icons and to see someone hauling them off is just dumb.
I know he is just 17 (apparently) but so am I and I know way better than to throw away tractors and refuse to talk like that. I wonder if things would be different if he actually knew what he was sending to the scrap yard?
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Here's the post where he tried to get it a new home:
http://www.allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11835&KW=&title=wanna-trade - http://www.allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11835&KW=&title=wanna-trade
One of the great things about this forum is that it is usually "self moderating". What I mean is, we can all usually discuss our opinions like adults and the moderators usually do not need to get involved in this section. Of course, for me, that often means biting my tongue or actually thinking about what I want to say and how it may be interpreted. There is often nonsense posted here, a lot of off-topic stuff that does not interest me, the same questions that get asked and answered every week, and children talking about all the tractors they are going to buy or feel the need to babble on every topic without bringing anything to the discussion. The edit function is nice for someone who wants to "refine their position" if they come off too harsh, but it is usually not needed. Several people come to this forum daily to belong to this community, and that includes people like Lanse. Of course we are all free to express our opinions, and many try to help make this community better. A few years ago when Lanse was having all his trouble with his B, someone here sent him a new carburetor for it anonymously. RAkien drove several hours to help him get it started, having never met him in person. I guess my point is, many of us had a strong male role model/father to help us become men, some did not. In my case, I was still quite foolish at that age even with that help. I'm glad I learned from much of that foolishness, and hopefully, with time and continued help, others will too. Finally, the best thing about this community with all the different opinions is that we all will not always agree, but no one's opinion (except Darin's) is greater than anyone's else.
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Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 10:10pm
The thing that bugs me is that he didn't seem to try to get the tractor to another young guy or gal. I guess it is possible that nobody he knows was interested, but any of those tractors would have been good projects for a kid in high school.
------------- 1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45
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Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 10:19pm
I am fortunate to have some great young men about his age that work for me and just hang out here at my farm. The difference between this young man and these guys is in the upbringing and examples he has or has not been given by his elders. He seems kind of aimless and he could use some guidence, planting wheat and trying to raise livestock, or starting a mechanical project like fixing a tractor or a pickup without the proper knowledge or help can lead to frustration and ambivilance. Any one of my crew would jump for the chance to have a little ground and some old tractors to call their own. LOL
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Posted By: wkpoor
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 10:21pm
I wasn't going to post here untill I watched the vid of him dragging the engine in to the garage behind the garden tractor. Then he proceded to tell everyone he has to go back throught the engine because he couldn't get it to start (what????). So he tears the whole thing down on the floor (what????) is this boy doing??? Remind me to NOT buy parts from him on Epay. Maybe its not his fault, no mentoring is the problem.
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Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 10:24pm
One big mistake humans make in life is knowing when to not speak. Now with the Internet and sites like Facebook/YouTube,etc,etc, people are posting any/all information and life issues in there lives for the whole world to see/hear. It best to keep these private, life issues to yourself. I'm not advocating no speech, hibernating from the world, just good judgement and private matters kept private.
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Posted By: Reeseholler
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 10:31pm
Not everyone in the world is how we would like them. I'm sure he isn't the only one. If you want him to return and ask questions here, please stop the slander. I think this has gone far enough. The more people say about the things he shouldn't do, nobody is offering advice as to what he should do. You can criticize me for saying this but please keep your opinions to yourself or take it to his youtube where he can decide to leave it or delete it.
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Posted By: GARY(OH/IN)
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 11:09pm
What you have here is a kid that spends his time dragging junk home to his Mom's property. If he was smart he would sell all his inventory to collectors on here and a scrap yard for what he can so when he's 18 and Mom sends him down the road he can buy a running vehicle so he doesn't have to walk. In the short term he should put down the camera and start cleaning the place up. Hope the old barn survives him as the post and beam timbers are worth money.
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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 12:42am
Think I seen it was Rush City Mn.... Not far, just across the river. Would have dragged that old WC home in a heart beat if I had known.
As for his actions, all I can say is your character is what you make yourself to be, who has had influence on you, who you hang around with, and how/what you observe . Then the trials in life also shape the persons thoughts and actions. Location also has a big role in the play.
Rush City is a rural area that once were many beautiful farms, and some ugly ones too which is normal in any location... But there was a seed planted , the seed was a new prison and it provided many a place of employment. And then developments were established and houses were built. No doubt that a scenario like this happened to this 15 acre farm... Lands sold off for housing developments.
Farms of any size will one day have a premium value if its all together, but when I do not know. Tho for this 15 acres parcel, it is history to think it would ever again be an 80, 120, 160 acre farm. much less even a 40. That could even give some people troubles to think about.. It does me to think of all the places that have been chopped up, divided and overrun with expensive shacks.
Well I guess I rambled here to long,, the Vid did make me sad too,.The words he spoke and his actions were of a youth.
One thng he should do is put down that camera and get a job where he can get a foundation in his life again.
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Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 5:25am
How sad! Prime example of why we should have gene pool filters. (Condoms)
------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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Posted By: Lance/SC
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 7:02am
I recall when Rich was helping him get his B running and he seemed to have it together at the time. Was Lanse the one that went to live with his father and tried to get back to the farm when he had time off from school? His videos at that time were interesting. I also thought about changing my screen name as several people asked me about my videos when I would post something thinking I was him.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 7:47am
Lanse just has some growing up to do yet.
------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 7:52am
He's just young. Wisdom comes with age.
------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC
1968 one-seventy
1956 F40 Ferguson
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 7:14pm
I volunteered to spend a day and help him out with stuff he couldn't figure out when we were visiting family near where he lives/lived at the time. You can lead a horse to water, but can't make him drink...
------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 7:19pm
Lanse, the offer of non judgemental help is still available the next trip we make to Ohio.
------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford
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Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 8:31pm
I saw the one where he scrapped the rest of the WC. It was a 34, by the way. Saw the cast steering wheel in one of the other videos. Even seemed to have the starter tank in good condition. None the less, it and the B are now gone from this world.
I think we have all done things like that or said things like that at one time. Mostly associated with age. The older you get, the more you realize you don't REALLY know.
In a way, the video is bad, but I hope that in a few years, he can look at it and a feeling of regret comes over him. If so, that means he is growing up in the right direction.
Lanse, if you're reading this, remember to have a little respect for those who have helped you along the way. To them, your actions may look like contempt or disregard for what they have done. Do not be surprised if help from that direction may be hard to come by again. Sometimes you burn bridges and don't even realize you dropped the match. Some people are forgiving, some are not. It's all part of life, and you will learn it one way or another. I just hope you can see fit to hang on to the farm and the land that is in your family. You may appreciate it one day. I wish you the best of luck.
------------- I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me!
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Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 9:56pm
Give the kid a break. I for one have never met Lanse in person, but I dealt with him twice buying parts. Once was a set of footbrakes for a B, and recently I bought two rear spoke rims off of the WC that got scrapped. Both times I have dealt with him have been good transactions, and I would not hesitate to deal with him again. He's a young guy, who's trying to learn some things on his own. We all don't know his story, but I'm sure many of us were probably viewed the same way you all have viewed him, when we were his age. Many of us have turned out alright, and that's with years of successes and failures, buttchewings and buttkickings. The thing that I've always appreciated about Lanse is that he's trying to learn things about old tractors. He could be inside playing video games or doing other mindless things that many young people do all the time, but he's not.
We all might not agree with some of the things he's done, and some of us would love to save every AC tractor. There may or may not come a time when he regrets parting and scrapping these tractors out. One will never know. But don't be so quick to judge the guy.
------------- 1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221
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Posted By: chllngr528
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2011 at 9:58pm
I have no use for people like him. There are so many people that wish they could have what he's got. As far as people sticking up for him, (I'm not trying to start a war here) it's not like someone went to his house and made a documentry of white trash in america. He made the movie himself and then posted them on the internet for all to see. He doesn't take care of his animals, he obivously doesn't know how to operate a lawn mower, he shoots out the windows in his own barns, stuffs fire crackers in the breaker box and complains about the bad stuff that happens to him and his equipment even when its his own fault.
I don't think it has anything to do with him having to "grow up". He's a idiot, plain and simple.
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Posted By: FredW
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 7:11am
I met him at Wapak (ohio) show and this sure surprises me. Fred
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Posted By: FredinInd
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 7:15am
I think we ought to tranfer this to the Shops, Barns, Varmit, trucks forum.........
------------- Oh well, I won't do that again!
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 12:37pm
see what drugs do to your brain!
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 12:43pm
had a kid come to me and ask if there was anything he could do to help me! sure!! i asked him to start dismantleing an old "g" combine, wanted to get the grain tank and hyd pump off, showed him where the tools were and went back to planting (in a field next to the combine) kept watching him go in and out of the shed for tools, watched him lit up about 30 cigs! i came in as i finished the field. looked, saw tools scattered all over but nothing taken apart! he was there about 2 hours!! asked him whta the problem was? he said he needed a torch to take anything apart! told him to go home!
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Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 1:00pm
well, I bought some B parts from him and he treated me right. Hopefully he'll grow up a bit. If I remember right, was just him and his mom-probably has something to do with it...
------------- Thanks
Most Bad Government has grown out of Too Much Government- Thomas Jefferson
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Posted By: singingpig
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 1:43pm
Well, God Bless him, the kid is in over his head. Not sure why he thought it was a good idea to post that video, but his immaturity comes through.
I've been in over my head many times in my life...recently, too, and I'm 56 this month. Someone has always given me a hand, a second chance etc. Thank God for 2nd chances in this life.
Seems like a lot of people on this forum have never needed help and have never been in over their heads....must be really hard to live your lives so perfect.
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 1:57pm
singingpig wrote:
Well, God Bless him, the kid is in over his head. Not sure why he thought it was a good idea to post that video, but his immaturity comes through.
I've been in over my head many times in my life...recently, too, and I'm 56 this month. Someone has always given me a hand, a second chance etc. Thank God for 2nd chances in this life.
Seems like a lot of people on this forum have never needed help and have never been in over their heads....must be really hard to live your lives so perfect.
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Well said!
------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC
1968 one-seventy
1956 F40 Ferguson
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Posted By: chllngr528
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 2:53pm
singingpig wrote:
Seems like a lot of people on this forum have never needed help and have never been in over their heads....must be really hard to live your lives so perfect.
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But most of us don't go around purposely destroying our stuff and then complain about it later.
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Posted By: realolman
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 3:31pm
Id love to have that place.
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Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 3:37pm
SHAMELESS wrote:
he said he needed a torch to take anything apart! told him to go home! |
Yeah, I don't think you need a torch to take a combine apart. The only thing I can think of that would require a torch is if you were fabricating something or just dismantling something for the hell of it to never be put together again.
Correct me if I'm wrong (I've never owned a combine) but wouldn't the grain bin and other parts be bolted on?? I don't think they would weld the parts onto the machine.
------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500
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Posted By: TEDMI
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 4:21pm
This forum is not what it was, never in my life did I think people would say what they have about another member , the forums the same , I guess the people have changed. To bad .
TEDMI
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Posted By: Nathan
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 4:28pm
The WC that lanse had was not a 1934 it was a 37. It had the standard 3 spoke steering wheel i tryed to buy it from him complete last year but he wasnt interested in selling it complete only in pieces. According to the serial number and all the pics he sent me the only thing that wasnt 37 was the hood. Guess you cant save all of them nathan
------------- 35WC 37WC D-10 D-12 D-14 D-15 D-17series 1 (2)D-17IV D-19 CA RC Unstyled WF GLEANER E 416H 314H 712H 716H
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Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 4:43pm
My only concern about him or his activities is safety, his own and bystanders. Time will tell if he survives his adventures. I certainly don't want to see him or others hurt or worse. I don't like to see anyone fail .
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Posted By: realolman
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 5:34pm
TEDMI wrote:
This forum is not what it was, never in my life did I think people would say what they have about another member , the forums the same , I guess the people have changed. To bad .
TEDMI
| Well, of his own volition, the guy made and published the video. ... what should we have taken from it ? If I missed the point, what was it?
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