Another Poll.....Media Blasting???
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Topic: Another Poll.....Media Blasting???
Posted By: Orange Blood
Subject: Another Poll.....Media Blasting???
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 8:59pm
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So guys what type of media blasting do you use, if you use it, sand, glass, walnuts, plastic, aluminum oxide; and why?
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Posted By: Steve M C/IL
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 9:09pm
| I don't like the left wing media. How's that for blasting? LOL! |
Posted By: E7018
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 9:12pm
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The black sl*g stuff. It says black diamond on the bags. 20/40 size works for my nozzle. Getting water out of the air is the tough part for me. Finally, figured it out, for the most part. |
Posted By: amac
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 9:19pm
| I like sand. Its cheap and most available. although something less aggresive works better on sheet metal especially blasting decals off. Sand used the second time works for sheet metal and its free. |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 9:23pm
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Steve M C/IL wrote:Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 9:33pm
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I thought this was going to be a political post too. Only thing I have used here at home is silica sand. I did see a set-up once that had an old window screen attached to a Briggs crankshaft that was run by electric motor. The guy would dig sand up at the public beach and sift it through the screen. Pretty cheap way to go.
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 10:38pm
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Black Diamond, bought two more bags today. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 10:45pm
| sugar sand is my choice.very fine and feeds good in my blaster.also can use lower air press.on thinner metals |
Posted By: farmer0_1
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 12:45am
| for cast and thick sheet metal i get mason sand. |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 7:38am
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See If I am thinking correctly. From my research I can go cheap on the heavy duty parts, with regular old sand blasting. But anything sheetmetal, I should go with a plastic media of sime kind, since I am not a blasting expert and would tear up or warp sheetmetel with sand.
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Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 7:43am
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Posted By: farmer0_1
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 1:27pm
| when i did my M int years ago there was a local guy who charged me a couple hundred to do every part . couldn't beat that . now i did my avery five years ago and i used a adapter on my pressure washer so i could use sand. less to no dust. reclaimed the sand let it dry out and used it on the next project. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 1:45pm
------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: BrianC,Ont
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 2:06pm
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Most older tractor sheetmetal wont warp with sand or coal sl*g, ie black diamond. But any thin sheetmetal will warp from the heat. I use walnut shells whenever there is no rust, more $, but less chance of wrecking trans and motor with it. What ever you use make sure you tape, and double tape around shifter boots, etc. The coal sl*g is more expensive than sand but i a lot more aggressive, so you get done faster. I do like the others said put dowmn a tarp and reclaim what you can and sift it. I made a wooden frame with some 2x4 and stapled some window screen on it and it works great And if you dont have a pressure feed sandblaster, then I would take it and have it done. ------------- 35WC on steel, B with belly mower, D17 puller, D15 Series II puller, D15 Series II with loader, 608 Lawn Tractor |
Posted By: Bob-Maine
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 2:26pm
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I'm with Stan and Brian. I use Black Diamomd, put down a tarp and sweep it up. Run it through a piece of window screen and back into the blaster. Bob@allisdowneast ------------- I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not sure. |
Posted By: Kraig (WI)
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 3:41pm
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Just be careful regardless of what media you use. A lot of the old paint is lead based paint so keep kids away and try not to inhale the dust. Also, silica can cause lung cancer. So be safe. ------------- 7010,D17D,WD45,WD,WC,WC,B, Gleaner K,60,66,72 |
Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 3:51pm
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I have a little portable suction blaster. I use sand, the white play sand from ToysRUs works great in it, it's much finer than regular sand and cheap at about $5 for a 50 lb bag compared to $20 to $30 for official blasting media. Mike
------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 4:30pm
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Posted By: E7018
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 7:09pm
| The place I get black diamond stuff from is about $7-8 per 60 - 80 pound bag. A commercial construction supply place. |
Posted By: Dale
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 7:20pm
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Is anyone familiar with soda blasting? I read somewhere that it works really well without the negatives that some of the other media cause. |
Posted By: Allen Dilg
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 7:31pm
| I use Black Beauty now, the brick supply house quit selling silica and sl*g, and when I asked where do I buy it they just srugged their shoulders. I did find another place get a pallet a year, but 80# bags which I can handle a LOT easier. One thing I have noticed when blasting hoods is that they will flatten out until you blast to other side, as far as warpage don't get too close and keep MOVING! |
Posted By: farmer0_1
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 9:33pm
| i went over to a soda blaster that has a business not to far from me and looked at his work and it did very nice. he was blasting an aluminum boat and it wasn't warping i looked for bulges. now any media will warp metal from my understanding. this fellow wanted $750 to soda blast my 85 suburban i am restoring. that included door jambs and me pulling all the stuff off. i am told it won't hurt glass either. i decided to grab my sandpaper. |
Posted By: BrianC,Ont
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 11:49pm
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Farmer; Not all media will warp metal. The reason we use walnut shells, crushed corn, soda, plastic, etc is that it doesn't build heat when you blast it, but it wont remove rust. Sand, glass, and coal sl*g generate heat when blasted, and that is what warps the metal. If that burb is rust free, then you sure would save a lot of time having him blast it. So much nicer working with clean bare metal when you are doing a resto. ------------- 35WC on steel, B with belly mower, D17 puller, D15 Series II puller, D15 Series II with loader, 608 Lawn Tractor |
Posted By: farmer0_1
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 12:07am
| i agree the heat build up is what causes issues . so far from what i understand is that the dry ice blasters were the only one that will not make heat. now i will be the first one to admitt i have only used sand. i believe that the other media you speak of in the right hands will be fine. if i knew with little experience i could use soda and not warp the big flat panels on a 80s chev i would. |
Posted By: BrianC,Ont
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 12:28pm
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My buddy has his 70 Cuda completely soda blasted. The metal on your truck is a whole lot better than a 70s Mopar. If you are going to do soda yourself then I think you need a soda pot, as the regular sandblasting pots will not work. The guy around here that does soda, does all kinds of complete cars. If you done it yourself with walnut shells, then you would need about 15 bags, @ $25 a bag, and can be used in a regular blasting pot. That is what it costs in Ontario. You might be able to dicker a little bit and get the price down on the soda blasting guy. ------------- 35WC on steel, B with belly mower, D17 puller, D15 Series II puller, D15 Series II with loader, 608 Lawn Tractor |
Posted By: Rogers
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 6:27pm
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I have used Black Diamond and fine blasing sand. I prefer sand sand simply because I had less trouble with it stopping up. It is also cheaper. The main thing is having something that doesn't stop up the nozzel. Having enough air for the job and keeping good nozzels in the blaser goes a long way in preventing clogs. That is my two cents and I have change to boot. LOL.. ------------- Think for yourself and be your own expert. Be willing to change your mind; however, willingness to change your mind doesn’t mean that you will. Blindly following any path is the pinnacle of insanity. |
Posted By: Gordy
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 7:01pm
| I use sand but I use spray can type paint remover first then the pressure washer takes most of the paint off just need to sand blast the rust what little paint is left. |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 7:37am
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I use Black Beauty Fine in both my pressure blaster and my Blast Cabinet. Pot blaster is ALC from Caqrquest, nice blaster. Cabinet is a Skat-Blast from TP tools. ------------- Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity" 1968 D15D,1962 D19D Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start |
Posted By: Reeseholler
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 6:35pm
| I used 50 lb bags of quick crete play sand for my CA. I did all of the tin by hand except the fenders. All of the cast stuff that I took off I blasted. for 2.50 a bag, it saved me a lot of wire brushing and sanding |