Opinions on Painting 190XT
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Topic: Opinions on Painting 190XT
Posted By: captaindana
Subject: Opinions on Painting 190XT
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 6:59am
I hate to keep beating the issue but the more I look at the paint the more I see it really does need a professional paint job. Some of it is almost acceptable but the fender tops, fuel tank and lots of other places are way too far gone in my opinion. What do you guys think. I know it's mine and I can do whatever but I like hearing other thoughts. Thanks, Dana
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Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 7:10am
| Have to agree on those fender tops,Capt. Original paint is best in my opinion, looks like vertical surfaces are much better. Is the paint original?? You are going to "shed" the tractor, maybe get home, do complete cleaning, and reevaluate at that time. I'm thinking of preserving area's that need protection, maybe someone knows how to do that without doing complete job, and not ending up with a "motled" looking machine. |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 7:52am
| Paint er. I love shiney new paint and telling other people how to spend their money!!!!LOL, Darrel |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 8:00am
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If you like new paint then do it. It will look sharp. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 8:05am
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I'm in the camp of leaving original paint on whenever you can. But in this case, I believe I would go for some new paint. Check all the seals for leaks, make sure it's mechanically acceptable, and then get some Persian Orange #2 on it! But you're right, it's yours so do whatever you want.
Brian F(IL)
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Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 8:52am
Well anyone who knows us knows we like newer paint! lol
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Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 8:55am
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I would think leave it. Once you start using it that rust wears down and doesn't look as bad. That is a low hour tractor for its age. Everyone of those rusty marks is part of its history. Kinda like the scars on your own hands and body. If your worried it will look bad for resale, Just don't ever sell it.
Tractors that need painting are the ones that are pieced together from 4 other donor tractors.This is a nice unit with all its original parts. Seems to me fate meant it to stay that way.
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Posted By: skipwelte
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 9:08am
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There is enough faded and surface rust on it that I would go ahead and paint it. My 185 had nice paint, but a lot of scratchs that were rusty. I tried to touch up paint just the rusty scratchs, it looked worse, so I went ahead and painted the tractor. looks much beter now. You wont be happy until it gets painted!! Good luck |
Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 10:23am
| Thanks guys for the opinions, I really do appreciate it. Skip it would drive me crazy all beat up, so she's going to have to get done after we get it running. Hey Skip we're still on for you fixing my hydraulic valves on my 19 if I give you a ride here in my jet, and airline you back home, right? lol |
Posted By: Eddie(IL)
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 10:26am
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You gotta plan ahead, Dana...maybe this will encourage you a little. This one we refinished with the Agco paint. Looks like you have a good one to start with...Good luck, Eddie
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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 10:27am
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Dana,
I'm in the new paint camp! But, I need to really point out how much I object to the yellow seatbelt! LOL! ------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: Eric[IL]
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 10:44am
| Eddie, Your restoration pic on your 190xt looks great. Did you change out the snap couplers on your 190xt's grill for the rubber truck hood couplers? I can't quite see it close enough for sure? |
Posted By: skipwelte
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 10:51am
| You bet Dana, Im ready any time. Just pull into Jet Sun here at the SUX airport, Ill be there waitin!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Eddie(IL)
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 11:09am
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Eric...Unfortunately, the original grille met an untimely end, when it got too close to the rearend of a combine, and that is actually a fiberglass repo grille, and those are the rubber latches that came with it. Thanks for the compliment, Eddie
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 12:12pm
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paint it and make it look new again! you'll be glad you did. The only time keeping original paint in my opinion is when the tractor still looks almost as good as new, you know pampered low hour liitle old lady from pasadena owned! LOL! I see people patch paint, and I think it looks worse sometimes. original is original! patch painting takes away the originality. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 2:30pm
| I'm with all you guys. Eddie seeing that pic is gonna really drive me nuts cause I can't get the XT home till the snow melts off the mountain trail leading to that pole barn. What an amazing looking beast. Yup real easy to fall in love lol. Skip I have tried to refuel at SUX and meet you and some day it will happen. 90% of the time I quick turn in DBQ or DSM or DVN in Iowa or down in Ne at GRI or LNK or LBF about 10% of the time. They are about half way between my Saratoga home base and Salt Lake City; I do those runs almost bi monthly. Shoot me your cell number sometime. Final answer....she's getting painted! |
Posted By: ALinIL
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 3:23pm
| Eddie - Are those American Farmer rear tires on that XT? |
Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 3:53pm
| Leave her alone. Just spend as much time in the seat as you can with your elbow resting on the fender and in no time she will be nicely polished. Better yet send her down to me and I will polish her up with my elbow. I figure about a year will just about do it. |
Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 6:49pm
| LOL good one Lou! Texas Allis I hear ya man. All of my other 6 or 7 AC's have no paint within arms reach on the fenders and are highly polished; and that is a fact. |
Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 7:01pm
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I'd give it a new dress but don't get in a hurry. Use it for a year, find all the little things that need fixin. Clean it up, find the leaks make sure the engine , clutches and drive train are good. The last thing you want to do is split a freshly painted tractor. That also gives you some time to have some fun with it.
Leon B MO ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 9:48pm
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I'm with Leon. After sitting this long, put it through it's paces first. Once everything fixed up, tear it down to paint! ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |