Losing me mind. B starter setup
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Topic: Losing me mind. B starter setup
Posted By: JimD
Subject: Losing me mind. B starter setup
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 10:04am
OK, so I've sold hundred of those starter switches on the side of the B starters. Sent a starter to a customer, and he couldn't figure out how it went with the rod and such. Finally figured out he was missing the starter, switch, rocker lever, and rod.
So.... I thought I would print him a pic of the whole setup from the parts book. It's not there! It shows a solenoid. Pulled a parts book from the shelf, same thing!
I'm never ashamed to learn something new, but have I lost my mind?
I was unaware any B's ever came factory with solenoid starter setup. I know there was a rod you pushed with your heal, and one that pulled on the later B's, but unaware of a solenoid setup.
Anyone care to comment on this (not on my mental state)?
JImD
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Posted By: Tramway Guy
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 10:55am
You have the picture for the B-125 stationary engine. The 'B' tractor is on a different page.
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Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 11:25am
I have two starters with studs instead of the contact. I think they are autolite starters.
------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 1:01pm
Jim - It's OK- No pun intended.
Like the man above said, your on the wrong page.
Next page. Electric Starting. B-IB-C. Picture stinks but the part numbers are all there for the rods. 5 of them. Brackets. 3 of them. Levers. 2 of them and, 2 switches. a Delco and a Auto-lite.
A pretty decent photo of the Starter/switch with the lever is on B-C page 40 of AC form SM3 "Knowlege Means Power". Covers G, B&C, & CA
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Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 1:06pm
Wow, college education failed me again :). I see the photo now. Though it won't help my costomer since the lever/switch is not really shown because it is on the bottom.
I think I will go back to bed now.
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Posted By: Chris/CT
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 2:19pm
Your not the only one who has those "Kinda" day's!!
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 4:59pm
For a minute there I thought you were looking at an English B since they had, I think what they called, a Lucas set-up with solenoid and key switch.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF
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Posted By: Bee
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 2:49am

------------- Bob, North Carolina
1949 B
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Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 8:28am
I never saw a switch on top like that
------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 10:51am
My CA has the pull rod with the switch on top. I thought B's went that way after the CA was introduced.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF
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Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 10:56am
Could be maybe I just haven't looked enough, I bet you a dollar next time I go to a show I will see them all over.
------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14
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Posted By: wfmurray
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 11:20am
Some gas tanks have a depression in bottom of tank for longer lever. may be on 10 and 12 models not sure.
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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 4:13pm
That's okay Jimbo. They have pills for that. I take em' to keep my sanity sometimes. The drawback to them is they stunt yer' growth. That's why I'm working on a G model now. I can get on that one easier without to much help.... LOL!! Steve@B&B
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Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 4:21pm
What had me going is that out of the 30 or so B's I've salvaged out, may 5 had the original setup. I've gone to far as to talk to a local shop about reproducing the little pig-tailed pushrod.
Steve, will the pill stunt my growth outward? I good at 6'. In the 6th grade I was 6' and 185 lbs. I graduated at 6' and 185 lbs. Got married a year later at 6' 185lbs. Then something happened? 6' and 250lbs and I think my brains slumped into my gut. Can't remember a durn thing and my mind is always on my next meal :)
------------- Owner of http://www.OKtractor.com" rel="nofollow - OKtractor.com PM for an instant response on parts. Open M-F 9-6 Central.
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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 4:38pm
Jim, My weight hasn't changed much since high school, so I don't think the these pills have any effect on weight, but I was 5' 4"/148. Now I'm 3'1" at 149.... Waist is the same, had to shorten the pants tho...... Steve@B&B
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 6:51pm
Steve, I think being the brunt of all the short jokes has gone to your head. Maybe the pills have something to do with it but I don't believe you are 3'1".
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF
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Posted By: Jacob (WI,ND)
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 8:56pm
Here is a pic of Lil' Allis's push type Delco Remy starter switch area: Don't know if this helps any, good luck Jim, we all have those days.....
------------- Jacob Swanson 1920 6-12; 1925,1926 20-35 longfenders; 1925,1926 15-25's; 1927,1929 20-35 shortfenders; C; B's; IB; WC's; WD; WD45
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