What the F%^* is this!?!?
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Topic: What the F%^* is this!?!?
Posted By: JR Maley
Subject: What the F%^* is this!?!?
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 5:06pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpUcRYq73YY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpUcRYq73YY
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Posted By: Gatz in NE
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 5:09pm
| dunno...but everyone should have one! |
Posted By: Brad-MN
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 5:11pm
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That could be one of the coolest concoctions I have ever seen, a segue for AC nuts! ------------- 1930 U 1938 A 1941 WF |
Posted By: JR Maley
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 5:12pm
| I hope somebody here may know the guy, and how it works. I would drive that at every event I go to. Look at the confused stares on the faces of everybody around him, its too funny. |
Posted By: Dean/MN
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 5:25pm
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That's an Allis segway, way ahead of there time again!
------------- HD16,917H,185,7050,8030FWA,8050FWA |
Posted By: JR Maley
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 5:33pm
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I found more footage: http://s298.photobucket.com/albums/mm265/Atavar4/?action=view¤t=0626091027.mp4 - http://s298.photobucket.com/albums/mm265/Atavar4/?action=view¤t=0626091027.mp4 |
Posted By: patrickmull
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 5:41pm
| there is 2 tires and wheels inside the tire not sure how it drive them |
Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 9:57pm
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OK, I gotta figure out how that works!! Then I want one!!!! Think it would be even cooler with AG tires on it. ------------- I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me! |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 7:17am
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It's a Smokey Stover 2-wheel'd car. Google it, you'll see pictures from the old cartoon. Yes, there's actually four wheels... two in each tire. Balance is slightly critical... |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 7:54am
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Really not that hard to make. Start with a hydrostatic rear end from a garden tractor,add independent brakes on the axles Power can be 5-10 hp engine.On the bar that the guy is holding, have 2 bicycle brake levers for left and right turning(same as a crawler ?).
The 'trick' is to get the balance 'right'.
hmm...I've got two great 16" tractor tires/rims off a 2 wheel cultivator...and a 'spare'hydro unit in the shop......
------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: JR Maley
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 8:03am
When the guy gets off does it tip forward and falls over?
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DaveKamp wrote:Posted By: NEJim
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 8:31am
| I hope he doesn't gain weight...... |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 1:05pm
| Yeah, JR... sorta. Notice that he's pretty close to the tires... well, the center of gravity needs to be directly above the 'apparent' axle. Most of what's hanging out front is empty bodywork... engine is far back, and pretty low. Usually, when guys build these, they can get 'em to balance... albeit barely... with them not on... and it's about right when they sit down. There's oftentimes a kickstand of sorts that swings down when the op climbs off. |
Posted By: Embellem
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 1:10pm
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I had an old Popular Mechanics magazine that had plans on how to design a Smokey Stover car. But I can't seem to recall seeing it for a while after moving a few times. Plans are definitely out there for how to do it. |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 9:53pm
That is one possibility------saw a clown car built like that. However, that method normally requires the big tire to be running fairly soft to give room for a little distance for the 2 small wheels running inside each big tire. The other possibility is a gyro located some where inside. ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 10:01pm
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No gyro, and no 'soft' about it- they're flat- airless. Imagine a tracked skid-steer... rather than having tracks, it has an old, really big tire. The tire is just there for looks- it's for the illusion. The real 'wheels' are rollers about 6" diameter, sitting on an 'A' shaped bracket. Yes, the "Foo Mobile" Smokey Stover Two-Wheeled Car was featured in June 1978 issue of Popular Mechanics, with a cutaway of the tire shown on Page 170. You can see it here: http://books.google.com/books?id=qc8DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA118&lpg=PA118&dq=Smokey+Stover+2-wheel+Car&source=bl&ots=etyMV6-0H3&sig=xHyu_jzI7OlF17tPMW7f00fGIGA&hl=en&ei=yp1cTdusGIP88Ab4n5yuCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Smokey%20Stover%202-wheel%20Car&f=false (link should work if you cut-paste it) The PM described setup, was two support wheels, and the RIM also rolled on a trio of rollers, with each wheel driven by a chain and hydraulic motor. Other drive concepts I've seen, is where the support rollers each have a sprocket, and are both driven by a common chain going through sprockets on each roller... where the DRIVE sprocket comes in the middle of the axleshaft, and the tire is actually mounted to a 'fake' rim that's just along for the ride. |
Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2011 at 7:08am
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Friend of mine Don Hayes had one like that several years ago with a cab on it made to look like A mODEL T. I drove it in a parade somewhere in the summertime and boy was it HOT! Pretty neat, tho. He died several years ago and I dont know what happened to it. Lots of fun! ------------- sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?" |