D17 Before Pictures
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Topic: D17 Before Pictures
Posted By: Orange Blood
Subject: D17 Before Pictures
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 11:41pm
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Well folks you asked for them, so here you go. She is a real beauty! :-) This will be a long term project, it will cost well in excess of a newly restored D21, but that's not why we do this right? I think! :-)
Look forward to your input!!
 ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
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Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 11:43pm
 ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 11:43pm
 ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 11:44pm
 ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 11:44pm
 ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 12:00am
 ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 12:00am
 ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 12:17am
| was it in a fire? |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 3:45am
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The tin looks good and straight. The cover on the trans being off and rusty gears might be a problem. Thanks for sharing. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 6:24am
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Sorry guys, I seemed to reach my posting limit last night?
Yes it was in a fire, the previous owner, some friends of ours, were filling up the tank about 20 years ago, when some static or something hot touched off the fire, with the lid of the tank still off, and what you see is the result, we bought it for the ins. salavge price, not long after. It's been sitting outside all this time, with covers over everything except we forgot about the melted gearshift boot. This allowed water into the tranny, the cover was only pulled a few days back to get an idea of what damage was caused. The head was pulled for the same reason. When I pulled the head I found ~2" of ice in each hole, I can only guess condensation, the exhaust was covered, and the carb was off. But someone must have tried to pull it in gear or something, because you may notice a few bent push rods??? Anyway, I am really looking forward to a full teardown, and complete rebuild. It will take some time, but will be worth it, I have a 7 year old son that loves to spend time with me, and has wrenched a little with me before, I am hoping he will stick with me on this, and when he is older he will not only have fond memories, but will have some idea of what farming is all about, since now I am stuck in the city. Not long after we bought this, my dad found two 17s sitting at a salvage yard, and bought a truckload of parts, so I should have most everything in straight good condition, except enternals. The engine is a piece of cake, the tranny, yes I am worried about rust as well. We will see, I have worked with worse, and it has come out ok, so who knows. ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: scott
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 6:47am
| Looks like an awesome project for you and your boy. |
Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 6:54am
| That is a good looking three point. I have the same one. |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 7:24am
------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
TexasAllis wrote:Posted By: Eric[IL]
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 9:54am
| One day at a time.. For what its worth - all your tires look to be matches. I can't wait to see your completed pictures. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 11:47am
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At first glance, it looks like a daunting task, but in reality, it's probably not nearly as serious. Tractors seem to be a nightmare when in pieces, but they go back together surprisingly quick. Wrench On!!! |
Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 12:16pm
| I suspect it will keep you out of trouble for a while -- the work , not the money - LOL. |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 1:40pm
The fronts are brand new, 15 years ago, the ones that went through the fire, were nothing but steel cords. The rears will need replaced, at least at some point, not sure if I will wait, or do them during the restore?!?!?
Thanks again! ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: Reeseholler
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 8:52pm
| looks like you have a project there. Take your time (unless you want another project, then hurry up :-D) and keep us posted |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 9:30pm
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It's a labor of love. Take your time and do it right, you will feel very satisfied in the end! ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: Oldoug
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 9:40pm
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You might wanna take some before pictures of your bank account also. Operation 'Save an Allis' is underway again!!! Good luck. ------------- Matt Folkers FOLKERS RESTORATION Restoring vintage things to last so the future can enjoy our past. |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 6:55am
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I found out some interesting news about this old girl, while looking at the manuals that we got with this tractor, the delivery record shows that it was sold by my great grandfather's dealership!!! How cool is that? I was disapointed that when asking my uncle about buying/getting one of my grandpas old tractors he got in the will, until I found this information out. Not only do I have part of my grandpa, but now part of my great grandpa. I realize that he only sold the tractor, but he is a part of it, and probably put his hands on the very same surfaces I and my son now have. I am glad it is back in the family. You should have seen my dad's face when he realized it as well, that 5 gererations of Kleins have had there hands on this tractor. ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 7:00am
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Good story! Keep us posted! ------------- sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?" |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 7:22am
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I was going to tell you that this is a parts tractor also until you told us the history behind it. I say go for it! It's a keeper! ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 9:43am
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Looks like Stan beat me to it. Not everyone can say they even have Dad's tractor, let alone one that dates back several generations... ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Jeff(WD45-SATX-TN)
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 1:05pm
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I agree - Great project! Especially to go through it with your boy. It will be tough I'm sure, and take a good while, but the time spent with your son will be priceless. Memories you and he will keep forever. Once you tackle this one, you can pretty much do any tractor resto.
Happy wrenching!
Jeff ------------- 1954 WD45 NF "Iron Tater" |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2011 at 1:44pm
------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |