Got my airplane tires all mounted up for my D17
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Topic: Got my airplane tires all mounted up for my D17
Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Subject: Got my airplane tires all mounted up for my D17
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 7:32pm
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Thought I would post some pictures of the tires that I bought from Gensco for the front of my D17 series 4 that I put a loader on. I was looking at getting some good 4 rib tires that had a good rating for weight etc, but they were close to 200 a pop. A week or two ago, there was a discussion about good loader tires:
http://www.allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24644&KW=aircraft&PID=186808&title=recommend-good-tires-for-loader#186808 - http://www.allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=24644&KW=aircraft&PID=186808&title=recommend-good-tires-for-loader#186808
Rawleigh suggested buying used aircraft tires from Gensco:
http://www.noflats.com/tractorfronts.htm - http://www.noflats.com/tractorfronts.htm
The ones that I got that are the same size as 9.5L-15 fronts were 55 bucks a piece plus shipping for used tires. They would have been 88 a piece for retreads but the guy told me that these would work just fine and after receiving them, I think they will. With two tires and shipping, it still cost less then 1 good new four rib tire, and these are 16 ply and are recommended for up to 45 psi and no faster then 25 mph. They are more like an implement tire in the grove pattern, but they are heavy duty tires The load rating on them as aircraft tires are 210 mph and are rated for 14500 lbs per tire. I think they'll be more then heavy enough!! Each tire shipped was 44 lbs.
Here is some pictures of them all mounted up to the rims that I got from my dad. I think these are going to work just fine. Thought I would do a writeup because these are some nice heavy duty tires and definately saved me a bunch of green compared to new ones. The salesguy that I talked to said that the rubber is a different composition and won't dryrot or crack over time. We'll have to see. Anyways, here are some pictures. I will post some when I finally get them mounted on the tractor
   ------------- 1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221 |
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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 9:07pm
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Looks like a great deal!
Now, if the ribs on either side of the center rib could somehow be
ground or cut out, you would have something similar to a tri-rib.
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 10:06pm
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Looks like the deal of the day... Nice looking tires ! ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 10:09pm
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Were they hard to mount?
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 7:03am
| Aircraft tires are better in every respect over auto and implement tires. Even used you have a better tire. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 7:05am
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Just keep the nose up of your B-17, wr D-17 when landing !!
Great score !! ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Eric[IL]
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 7:15am
| Smart move. 16ply - wow! Thanks for sharing.. |
Posted By: Brad(WI)
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 7:19am
| We've used them for years on our mixer wagon. They are 20+ ply in that size, and when they go flat, you may not notice til you get a load on it. We buy them with the split rim, bolted together in the middle. When they do go flat, the tire guy is not happy. Very hard to deal with that many plys in the sidewalls. Should last you forever in your application. |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 8:00am
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Just remember what the Military Air Traffic controllers always say; "Flaps down, Gear down?"
Tires look good! I will definately remember them when I get to the point with my D14! ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: E7018
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 8:20am
| I did break a spindle on a D17 series 1 narrow front. So, still use common sense as to what you do with the loader. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 9:14am
| ok...sooooo...how long would they last ona car? lol (summer only) |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 11:43am
| Wow... on a car... that'd be HEAVY... better put some 13.8x26's full'a fluid on the rear if you're gonna run in traffic! (yeah, you'll hafta open up the fenders a bit) |
Posted By: randy
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 12:20pm
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I put 12 tires on my wagons. New firestones were $300. plus. Replaced 16.1 x 16 from Gensco for $160 freight included. Not much of a choice! ------------- CA WD WD45 D17 D17 Diesel 7060 8050 8070 |
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 1:14pm
| What a great idea. Looks like they'd be great implement tires and I need them now and again. |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 1:51pm
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My grandfather, used to run airplane tires on the grain cart/auger wagon. The stalks would desroy regular tires in a couple of years, but after the first two years, he put on only two sets of airplane tires on for the last 20+ years he used it. I remember when I was a little kid riding with him, and looking back seeing the sidewall of the tires looking like the bottom of kids jeams today, and thinking those are going to blow. I don't know what he bought them off of, but they were around 4' to 4'- 6" tall and about 2' wide, I am guessing a big Boeing of some kind. ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: Jim-Tea
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 2:42pm
| What did you use for rims ? |
Posted By: Rawleigh
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 2:59pm
| Genesco has great deals on rims too. You can buy them already mounted. Glad they are working out for you Chuck!! |
Posted By: LionelinKY
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 3:00pm
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I remember growing up on the farm in the 1970s, Grandpa was always a fan of wider tires to reduce soil compaction. We ran a JD 54 spreader from before I could remember right up to when we sold the farm in 1989. Dad replaced the tailgate and beater at least once that I know of but the big old airplane tires that Grandpa had put on it lasted its whole life. They were at least 3' tall and at least 18" wide. Tread never seemed to wear down. Still had tread when spreader finally went to scrap. The sidewalls were rubbed down to cord in spots from us backing under the barn cleaner chute and rubbing the massive wood beams which supported the cleaner. I don't recall ever having the tire truck there to service them which definitely would have been required. ------------- "My name is Lionel and I'm an Allisoholic" |
Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 6:29pm
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Thanks for all the replies. These tires weren't the hardest to mount, but you can tell that there's alot of plies in the sidewalls. I used my brother's tire changer at his shop to mount them. The first tire, after I got the first half mounted and the tube in, when I got the other half mounted the tube stem popped back in the tire. Boy did I fight the tire sidewall down enough to get the tube stem back up in the hole. I didn't have my tube stem keeper thingamajig with me, so on the second one, I used a small visegrips to hold onto it, until I aired it up. The rims were some implement rims I got from my dad from a running gear that we scrapped out. By no means did they look this nice when I got them, but I sandblasted them down to bare metal and repainted them. I did have to touch them up after mounting the tires. There is a little rust pitting on them from before but for what I am using them for they are good enough, and plenty strong yet. ------------- 1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221 |
Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 6:32pm
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Looks like another good application would be trailer tires. I had to buy some expensive 150.00 chinese tires for my trailer that I haul my tractor on. These things look like they would of worked wonderful for that application too!
Mike in Iowa |
Posted By: NickT(Ky)
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 6:54pm
| Alot of guys around here use those tires mounted on the heavy-duty rims that come with them on the large round bale wagons. You know the ones with the narrow fronts. They trail real good too. |
Posted By: TexasAllis
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 7:35am
Buddy of mine has some mounted on a 16' trailer he uses to haul fuel with 300 gal tank I think. Pulls down the road real nice.
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allischalmerguy wrote:Posted By: bobkyllo
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 7:53pm
| they are not bad to work with if you have the split rims. but putting them on a regular rim sucks. |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2011 at 8:01pm
| Need pics of them on the tractor to do them justice! |
Posted By: RGR(TX)
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 7:05pm
| THEY ARE ALL MARKED OFF ROAD ONLY 25 MPH MAX |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 8:01pm
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I think most of the stack movers use them too. Chuck, when are we going to get a pic of the tractor? ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 9:00pm
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Eldon, hopefully I will get some time this weekend, but it's muddy like crazy here and I have a birthday party here for one of the little ones on Saturday, so if I rutt up the yard, I'll be in the doghouse. Maybe by Sunday afternoon. You should recognize at least one set of tires in the picture!! ------------- 1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221 |