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Topic: heald hauler
Posted By: farmer0_1
Subject: heald hauler
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2011 at 11:28pm
just got done working on my old heald hauler and thought i would see how many are still out there. i see a few on you tube but not to many. this one was bought new by my neighbor back in 81 and i purchased it from his widow about 6 years ago. it has a 18 hp twin briggs with a variable speed set up kind of resembling a snowmobile . anyway its my wood hauling farm rig. thought you might get a kick out of seeing it. it was 2100 bucks in 81 and you assembled alot of it.
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Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 12:59am
Don't know if this is related to yours, but this is a J-93 Hauler manufactured by kimball manufacturing in Benton Harbor Michigan. It is a customers of mine, which I recently did some work on it. It is a sweet little machine, its got an 18 horse honda v-twin, with a 3 speed transmission with variable drive like a snowmobile. I actually wish it were mine.------------- 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52 |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 11:14am
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The Heald Hauler,what memories that brings back.I would see the advertisement in the back of Prarie Farmer and Sucessful Farming Magazines.I bugged my father and grandfather for years that we should get one.They both saisd they look cheaply built and cost too much.
How did these machines hold up.Thats the first photo I ever saw of one.I always thought they would be fun to have around and maybe even useful.Look at all the 10,000$ UTV's that are out there now ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: farmer0_1
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 3:30pm
| we have hauled countless cords of firewood from the stack to the basement and when its time to do a chore its usually in the middle of it. i wouldn't mind not having a briggs under the hood but i have not touched it other than a starter drive. every thing on the cart is made from off the shelf parts or fabricated from steel. no suspension so it slows you down on bumpy fields. its my chief gopher trapping ride. i have two honda big reds and they have their place but its nicer to carry things with you this is the ride to have. i got to say i love the jeep front sheet metal on that other photo and yes when you tilt the box up the seat back goes up with it. i been wanting to make a vinyl top for it. we get alot of rain and it would make it more usable it the seat were dry. before this i was going to gut an electric golf cart and make a usable rig out of it. but this came along . up the road from me on a vineyard there was a three wheeled one. |
Posted By: ToddSin NY
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 6:43pm
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Thats pretty cool! Are they 2 or 4 wheel drive?
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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 6:59pm
| I have an elderly friend who rebuilds starters and generators for me and he has one just like the one in Hagers pic |
Posted By: farmer0_1
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 7:03pm
| ours is two wheel drive with a gear differential. has twin disc brakes on the rear axle only. the steering is kind of hard with two sprockets a small sprocket on the column shaft and a large sprocket with the tie rods attaching to the large sprocket. the dump is manual. the front axle is a twin i beam design. |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 9:20pm
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I think a guy could build a fairly good imitation using a lengthened garden tractor chassis.
I have a Ford 14HP with a 2 speed hydro that might be a perfect candidate.
It's not fast but moves along pretty good in high range and is a real puller in low range.
You sure got me thinking!
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Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2011 at 10:01pm
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The one in my picture is 2wd, and has hydraulic drum brakes on all 4 wheels. It also has electric lift for the box. ------------- 30+ A-Cs ranging from a 1928 20-35, to a 1984 8070FWA, Gleaner R52 |
Posted By: turfguy
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 4:28pm
| I have a j93 hauler in good condition and i am looking to buy parts. I need a clutch but cant find one. Is there any dealers ? |
Posted By: farmer0_1
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 10:12pm
| i just bought some parts thru Power Tec of benton harbor MI 1 800 535 9529 he is very knowledgeable . his parts are somewhat fabricated but they all fit and work ok. parts are pricey. |
Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2011 at 10:17pm
| I remember seeing them advertised and thought they were cool too. I think they had an optional cab and snow plow too. Brings back memories of a simpler time for me. |
Posted By: Seahemp Farm
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2011 at 7:21am
I just recently acquired a three wheeled model from the early 70's (we think it is first generation. Love it! Of course someone had to confuse everyone by making it look like a John Deere. LOL
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Posted By: farmer0_1
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2011 at 10:02am
| good to see a few still are out there. some folks up the road had the three wheeled version ten years ago it was in the fence row and i could never get it bought now its gone. still use my four wheeled one weekly. |
Posted By: camelot35
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 6:31pm
| Hi, where are you from ? I have a 3 wheeled hauler just like yours....steering wheel and all< its a Heald Mark3 hauler, yours should be a Mark 4 because its 4 wheeled. Post more pictures if you have them...thanks |
Posted By: Channel_Seedsman
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 7:05pm
This is ours, found a 3 wheel version at the local scrap yard, thought about saving it but it was to far gone
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Posted By: SIMPLICITY
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 8:49pm
Posted By: SIMPLICITY
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 8:51pm
| MY DAD HAS 3 1) 3 WHEEL WITH BICYCLE HANDLE BAR 2) 3 WHEEL WITH STEERING WHEEL 3) JEEP |
Posted By: farmer0_1
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 9:45pm
| we used ours this weekend to haul wood. |
Posted By: jslambert76
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2014 at 7:25pm
Posted By: jslambert76
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2014 at 7:32pm
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Hey I have the 4-wheel version of the Heald Hauler. I was having trouble getting the Beast out of Reverse. I tore out the gear box and and found that the splines on the input shaft that controls forward and reverse had sheared the roll pins causing the spring loaded ball to lock up seizing all movement. I am curious if anyone knows where I can get new or used parts for not only the input shaft assembly but the lever that moves the sincros for the forward and reverse. Help if you can Thanks Jeff |
Posted By: farmer0_1
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2014 at 9:42am
| did you try and call power tech of michigan? the phone number is posted above |
Posted By: normlf
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2014 at 2:20pm
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I just hauled a Heald Hauler four wheel unit home today...this one has a cab and even the doors .. Starts, runs decent, drives fine.....needs some TLC....... I'm on a search for part sources and trying to figure out what it would be worth.....both as is.....and if it is fixed properly. Most fixes are cosmetic and lubrication and that sort of thing. Body is in great shape with little rust and almost no dents......and what is there is easily repairable. Does anyone have any ideas; suggestions; recommendations....anything pertaining to this odd machine. |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2014 at 6:58pm
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We like pictures if you have some. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: normlf
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2014 at 9:47pm
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I have only one picture at the moment and that's not all that helpful. I will take a batch of pictures to show what it looks like. I worked on it for a while today and am pleased with what I've found....quite good condition...... Going to spend some time tweaking it back to prime condition.... As for the pictures....I'll have to figure out how to include those here.....have not had the time yet...but will do so. Norm |
Posted By: normlf
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2014 at 9:38pm
I have some pictures and with luck I can get them so you can have a look......any idea what it might be worth?       
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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2014 at 9:42pm
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That's pretty cool, no idea what it's worth but it looks like something I need. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: normlf
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2014 at 9:54pm
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I had to look up Baxter.....I've been to Brainerd on business a couple of time about 10 years ago....nice area....but a bit cold for me... The Heald Hauler belongs to a friend who just moved from a small horse ranch to a retirement condo.....because of Parkinson's I hauled it to my shop to check it out, fix a couple of minor issues and then sell it.. I thought I might like to have it, but have to be honest with myself.....I have no real use for it....and don't want to tie up my garage space. The Heald is in pretty decent condition. Start and runs good...drive works fine. Tires are good. A crack or two that will be repaired and have cleaned it up some. Thought about fully restoring it, but not sure I want to spend that much time. Would like some idea what they are selling for......can't find many for sale...apparently not real common. Norm |
Posted By: jslambert76
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2014 at 3:30pm
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Norm I have been doing a little research on these machines, because I recently acquired one and I am looking for a few parts. I have found that the 4 version ranges between $1,500 to $2,500. That's just what I have found and finding that wasn't real easy. If you're are looking for parts call Powertec. The number is 800 535 9529, www.powertecparts.com. Good luck Jeff |
Posted By: normlf
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2014 at 4:02pm
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One was recently listed on EBay fro $2500, but I don't know if that sold. That one was in rough shape compared to the one I have which is quite nice.....starts and runs and drives decent. I fixed a lot of little things, but all minor in nature. Just started acting up a bit and I suspect the fuel pump in the carburetor is the culprit....and carb kits are available for $20 on EBay....so will bite the bullet and get that done. Hard to work on those engine buried in between the frame rails and under the cab.....so I dread the job....but will get it done...... Parts for the 16 hp opposed twin seem to be readily available....but other than the fuel issue, this one seems good.....as is the drive train. Thanks much for the sharing....will do so with you if I learn something of importance. Norm 
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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2014 at 7:54pm
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The 3 wheel version must be more common, I see there are 2 of them for sale in MN. One for $900 and one with a dump box for $1200. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: normlf
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2014 at 8:10pm
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The one I have is four wheeled with a cab. It has head lights and a tail light....and brake light. It has electric windshield wipers as well as a dent free dump box. It even has usable OEM doors. It also has turn signals......I am going to rebuild the carburetor......as oddly enough, it's run good for a couple of years that I know of....and now it's giving me a bit of trouble.....my bad luck. But not a major item...more of an irritation. I have not decided on the sale price yet, but given everything involved, I suspect I'll be over $2K in asking. Norm |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2014 at 8:30pm
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The 4 wheel version is a much nicer looking machine by far, I don't really care for the looks of the 3 wheel ones. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2014 at 9:00am
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One of the electrical contractors that I have worked for had a Cushman much like that. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: Herb(GA)
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2014 at 9:57am
| You certainly hit the jackpot Norm; machine looks great, and a nice dump box. Son gave us an electric golf cart after I got hit with scoliosis. We have 2+ acres of gardens. We don't like getting wet when a small shower occurs. Problem is how to double roof size using some foldaway method so easily stores inside. Plan adding a readily removable, powered, hinging dump box; hope to find one at bone yard of some large golf cart dealer. |
Posted By: normlf
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2014 at 7:29pm
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I am not sure if I'm at the right place...but if not, I apologize..... I am working on a nice Heald Hauler with a cab and doors...and in nice shape for a machine of that vintage. It has developed a problem....it starts good, idles properly and runs decent at mid-level rpms, but seems to run out of fuel when at elevated rpms. I assumed a problem with the carb or the built in fuel pump. Ordered a carb kit and dismantled and carefully cleaned the carb and made sure all passages were open.....three way, mechanically with a piece of fine wire, compressed air and carb cleaner. All new parts gaskets, needle, idle screw, gaskets and also all internal fuel pump parts. No better!! Replaced fuel line and filter....no better. Took the carb apart again in case I missed something.....no better. Put a new hose from crankcase to pulse input barb on the pump....seemed a little better.....made sure passages was opened to crank case with probe and compressed air and then some carb cleaner....no better. Does anyone have any idea what might cause this condition.....and suggest any fix......HELP Not new to this sort of work....but I am missing something and don't know what it must be.... When engine starts to falter...if one lets up on throttle it will recover...and run decent..... I'm missing something.....ideas welcome...and hoped for. |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2014 at 8:15pm
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If you think it might be the fuel pump/supply issue could you put an electric one on for the time being to see if that eliminates the problem? That way you would know for sure on that part of it. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: normlf
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2014 at 9:16pm
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I thought about that and borrowed an electric pump from a neighbor.....but the pump pressure from the Briggs pump is 1.5 psi....and the automotive electric pump should put out 4 to 7 psi....and might well destroy the diaphragm inside the carb mounted pump....and just spent $21 for a kit that included the new gaskets and springs and diaphragm ...... not sure if I want to take that risk.. Any idea what might cause the pulse from the crankcase to be compromised....if that pulse is weak...the pump would be weak as well....just guessing what could affect the pump performance...a shot in the dark.... |
Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2014 at 10:22pm
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Would a bad seal in the crankcase cause a poor pulse? Would it run on a gravity feed tank, it surely can't use more fuel than what will gravity flow into it. ------------- Waukesha B, B, IB, G, styled WF, D15, 615 backhoe, 2-Oliver OC3's, 4 Ford Model T's, 3 Model A Fords, AV8 Coupe, AV8 Roadster, 1933 Ford Wrecker |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2014 at 10:28pm
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Check the fuel tank vent or vented cap. HTH tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: farmer0_1
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2014 at 11:26pm
| i like the gravity feed idea , at least temp it that way to see how it runs. got a boat fuel tank? |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2014 at 6:59am
x2 Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
farmer0_1 wrote:Posted By: normlf
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2014 at 9:25am
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I guess it might, but I would think that a bad crankshaft seal would be showing oil.....and this one isn't doing so. I spent some time last evening scanning through a manual for that engine and found a note about crankcase vacuum.....it suggested that a bad grommet at the base of the dipstick tube or o-ring under the dipstick cap could affect crankcase vacuum....it didn't say, but that implies it could alter the pulse and thus affect running.....I'll check that out.....the seal idea makes some sense. Anyone else have the same type of problem....??? Or can you suggest any ideas. Norm |
Posted By: normlf
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2014 at 2:35pm
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Posted By: normlf
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2014 at 2:42pm
| I spoke to a man who works for a dealer that sells and services all manner of small engine products as well as parts. He's worked there for 30 years. He listened to the symptoms I described and advised, if it starts and runs even into mid-range RPMs....that the pump isn't the issue....they either work or they don't And the carb is not the issue if it is clean...which it is. He suggested that two areas could be involved. One was the fuel as modern fuels with ethanol are different from the fuels of the 70s when that engine was designed and built....and he suggested refueling with premium level fuel.....which I will try. The other is that something could be affecting the strength of the pulses that operate the fuel pump. I've replaced the hose from the crankcase to the pump.....but some sort of leak with the dipstick tube....either the o-ring on the cap or the grommet in the crankcase could be leaking...and degrading the strength of those pulses .... Has anyone had any experience with either of these issues......what did you discover and / or fix? |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2014 at 5:22pm
| I would still try a remote gas tank hung above the carb and not running through the fuel pump. I have a large fuel filter that I cut one end off of and have a piece of rubber fuel line on the other. I have started and ran a lot of motors with it through the years. I had a kohler on a welder that I like to never got to run right. I did this to it and it ran well. I wound up buying an electric fuel pump from a small engine place to fix the problem. |
Posted By: Daveadams
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2017 at 12:06am
Thought I would add this it runs good and is for sale make me an offer thanks for looking 
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Posted By: Daveadams
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2017 at 9:41am
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Posted By: Walter C
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2019 at 6:28am
| I would like to know, if you still have this equipment? If so, would it be possible to get a picture of the nameplate decal on the side of the dump body. I just purchased one yesterday and I am looking for information. |
Posted By: exSW
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2019 at 7:18am
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Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2019 at 9:58am
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A friend of mine has a 3-wheel model. His grandfather bought it new and it's still in the family. they use it to pick up rocks in the field. I used it for that 12 years ago and the dump box is neat. ------------- http://machinebuildersnetwork.com/ |
Posted By: allis g
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2019 at 11:37pm
| Friend has one similar it’s called a turf-truk. Made in Turlock CA. bought brand new in Paso Robles CA at El Camino Equipment. By his grandpa in the early 70’s. Has a flat bed about 4’x4’ Harley Davidson disc brake on the drive shaft. Honda 10 horse engine from the factory, golf cart frame, and what looks like a ATC front end. Just this year finished a restoration on it. It was used to haul almonds back in the day. |
Posted By: draacul
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 1:32pm
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LOng shot as it it is 4 years ago but i think i have the same heald hauler with the same stuck in reverse issue. Did you ever figure out more info on yours? Please contact me if you have some help. Not much about mine out on the interwebs. Thanks
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 3:00pm
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My older brother had the Herald Super Bronco mini bike. I think it had the 10 hp engine on it. It would really go if you reached back and grabbed the governor. I think I have a picture somewhere. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 4:02pm
| Hi all the herald hauler is a pretty cool machine I had pleasure of spotting a duzgo which is a New Zealand build machine which is similar www.spirit magazine.co.nz>it duzgo it is a pretty good story |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2019 at 4:52pm
| Two things you could check is the clearances on the valves, or if the guides are worn bad you could lose vacuum both ways and so have a low pulse. Could you put the fixit on here when you're done. Thanks. Leon |