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If you want to make your blood pressure go up...

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Topic: If you want to make your blood pressure go up...

Posted By: morton(pa)
Subject: If you want to make your blood pressure go up...
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 2:39pm

...watch the first 20 seconds of this video. I appologize in advance, maybe this belongs in the political forum.

http://video.realviewtv.com/corporate/agcocorp/vision.html - http://video.realviewtv.com/corporate/agcocorp/vision.html

This was taken directly from a "history" link on AGCO's website.

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Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 2:43pm

...and this one too, 10 seconds in.

http://video.realviewtv.com/corporate/agcocorp/vision.html - http://video.realviewtv.com/corporate/agcocorp/vision.html

see if you can catch it.

Posted By: redline
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 2:54pm

Yep.

Does anyone else here have Elmer Fudd cross their mind?

Massey is a perennial leader in farm equipment? What?!? For as long as I can remember MF has been sucking the hind you know what.

Yeah, you were right. Got my blood boiling. Again.

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Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 5:16pm

Sick of hearing about shareholders. Customers buy products which produce profits to pay shareholders. If you have no customers, there are no profits and then the shareholders are gone. Customers are what a company builds a base on. I could find thousands of companies that have customers but no shareholders. I doubt I can find many companies that have shareholders and no customers. Without a customer base a company is nothing. I understand times change and practices need to also, but the fact of the matter is. It was guys that bought orange tractors long before AGCO existed that AGCO built its initial customer base on. As time went on they were able to add other customers through buyouts and aquistions with profits that were made possible by the initial customer base which happens to love orange tractors.

Fast forward 20 years and AGCO has built this skyscraper of a company. Out of the blue AGCO decides to knock away at the base of the structure by eliminating orange tractors.

Their only hope is that they can fill in that hole in the base with new customers or the whole thing is gonna go over with a bang.

Now I ask. Where were the shareholders in 1990 when AGCO was getting off the ground. Their weren't many to speak of. The company didn't get started with a big IPO. It was built slowly by satisfying customer needs and after the customers were satisfied that left some profits. Profits went to shareholders which more or less get in a bidding war to recieve them. When there are no profits nobody bids up the stock price.

Companies that focus on the investor instead of the customer are not a model for long sustainable buisness.

Note: These are my opinions. Your opinion may vary.

Posted By: Bill_MN
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 7:05pm

there was mention of massey combines but not gleaner, next on the chopping block perhaps? not that i give a rip about agco, the allis chalmers we know and love died in 1985 and i hope it never comes back, at least under agco management

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Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 10:31pm

99% of the equipment filmed was MF, no mention of any American brand in their "heritage" just "companies aquired" looks like the Allis Gleaner Company will soon be The Massey Company & friends.

Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 11:31pm

Was I the only one that noticed the Massey Harris tractor sitting in front of the building??

AND NOW FOR MY RANT.

The history one really pissed me off. I mean what the heck!!! It says that AGCO started with the acquisition of Deutz Allis but then it goes and shows Massey Ferguson tractors from the 50's. Another thing is all the tractors in the little evolution of AGCO thing were all MASSEY FERGUSONS!! The whole thing about MF being a perennial leader is also CRAP. I wonder what kind of mushrooms they found to make them that dumb? Whatever they are they had better give me some before I blow a fuse.

No mention of Allis-Chalmers and Gleaner, way to go I mean it only stands for the first 2 letters of your name and over 75 years of development and engineering that would put you way ahead of everyone else. But just go ahead and play with your little red and yellow tractors. I will continue to buy and restore the good old ORANGE tractors from a brand I love and respect.

I mean really, were we this big of jackasses to the Rumley people? I mean we do acknowledge them and at least tell people about the contributions that they gave us. But if AGCO can live without orange I can live without them (except parts for my AC) because I absolutely refuse to have anything to do with a Massey. The sad part is that I have to pass the MF dealer every day on my way to and from school so it is like a giant middle finger every time I drive by.

Sorry but I just had to let that out.

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