OT Using Jet Fuel as diesel ?
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Topic: OT Using Jet Fuel as diesel ?
Posted By: Robert Mull Georgia
Subject: OT Using Jet Fuel as diesel ?
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 7:26am
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Posted By: Denis in MI
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 7:28am
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I have heard of it but never tried it. ------------- 1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14 |
Posted By: Dale Hardtke
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 7:37am
| Used lots of jet A fuel in a VW diesel with no problems. Usually used it with a mix of no.2 diesel and jet A. The mix was, fill the tank with jet A, and whatever was left in the tank of no. 2 diesel. |
Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 7:49am
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the local guys do it here with Jet A in both a powerstroke and a VW.
don't know the years of the vehicles though.
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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 7:55am
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You may want to placard the muffler with "stay clear of exhaust blast" ------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: Dave A
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 8:31am
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when I worked over seas. we ran it in our trucks and refrigtors. Just to use it up when we got to the bottom of the tanks. It is a refined keroseen. You might see a little less power. Never thought of asking around here. Might just start doing it myself ------------- Play the game for more than you can afford to lose... only then will you learn the game. Winston Churchill |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 8:31am
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That's what the military does. The engine will run fine, but power will be reduced. Jet A has fewer BTU's in it than #1 diesel. If you do run it, I would add some lubricity enhancing additives to it. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 10:29am
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Aboard the carrier i was on we used JP5 and all the GMC engines in the 40' and 50' motor launches were fueled with it as well as fork lifts,tugs, starting carts. some of the 3 wheel jeps with generator packs were fueled with 115/145 Av Gas.
Heck fueled my Zipo lighter with mixture of 115/145 and JP5 - straight 145 evaporated to fast.
Lesat you wont have to worry about it jelling in the cold. ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: skipwelte
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 12:52pm
| When I was in Iraq we had to use JP8 in all our vehicles, thats all the Army would let you use. the five ton trucks had either non tubo 855 Cummins or 505 turboed Cummins. Out of around 50 trucks it took and engine a month, they all had scored liners from dry fuel. The Humvees didnt like the JP8, they didnt like to start hot, the pumps were scored internally. We could get #2 diesel due to part of the misson, so we ran #2 in the Hummers and we did not run the Hummers on convoy cause the bad guys will wait for Hummers to come down the road and blow it up cause its easier to kill than the 5 ton. The Air Force used JP8 in all the aircraft support vehilces, like the bomb loaders, hydralic mules and auxillary power units, but they dont get the high hours on them before they are replaced. You wont jell in cold weather with JP8 either. A grade is probably what you are going to get, which is more like kerosine, JP8 is dryer, JP4 is more like gasoline and kerosine mix, JP5 is what the Navy used on board ship, and little heavier than JP8. I liken A grade as a dry #1 diesel fuel. By all means use a real good fuel conditoner, not power service and you shouldnt have any problems. HTH |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 1:47pm
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What are you looking to run it in? Add Stanadyne performance formula to it and you may be ok. Newer technology engines I would steer clear of it. What you save on fuel, you'll likely pay for repairs. Also, if running in a pick-up, be aware, it is not taxed, so it will be treated as though its red off-road fuel. I have worked on injection pumps for military, or airports that were run on jet fuel of some sort, not sure, but pumps are really clean inside, and not as worn out as I thought they would be, but it is CAV's and Roosamasters were talking about.
------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 3:41pm
| My son who was a Army mechanic said the only trucks that ran good on the JP fuel were the old Multifuel deuce and a half's which the Military is phasing out.He said all the new trucks which are powered by Cat or Cummins engines did not start good in cold weather or run good on that fuel.I would be afraid of injection pump lubrication burning a kerosene type fuel.I remember when low sulfur diesel came on the scene a lot of truckers were loosing pumps if they did not run an additive. |
Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 7:08pm
| coke...we are really telling our age if we remember the old purple 115/145 aviation fuel.when the 115/145 dried up,you lost about 400 hp on the old 3350 turbos on the dc-7.if you tried to up the manifold pressure it would start hammering like a rock crusher,better pull her back.( that was 400 hp.per engins).i think you can still get 115/145 in very limited supply |
Posted By: lussetto
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2011 at 7:47pm
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FYI, Jet A/JP8 is 75% kerosene and 25% gasoline. It may work, but the BTU's will be lower and the lubricity would be concerns for me. Greg |
Posted By: Tricky Dickie
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2011 at 5:30am
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lussetto wrote:Posted By: dennyh(oh)
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2011 at 7:44pm
| fuel is much dirtier than #2 diesel. have seen injector tips blown off in the newer motor |