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Topic: Frozen manure grinder thoughts
Posted By: Matt Z
Subject: Frozen manure grinder thoughts
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 8:49pm

 We have a small feedlot up here in the tundra of Wisconsin and every year we have  an issue with frozen manure/snow buildup. We try to keep up by scraping it as often as the weather allows but always end up with a foot or so by the end of the winter. We would love to scrape it clean before it melts and turns into a toxic mess running wherever it wants to. I have been contemplating making a small 3 point rototiller like design but much heavier duty to grind this buildup into a powder form so we can scrape it out. I was thinking about the width of a tractor or 5 to 6 feet wide with a heavy shaft sort of like a rock rake drum driven by pto with casters to control depth so you dont hurt the cement. Has anyone heard of such a thing?? I work with metal often and believe I could build such a thing but would love some input. I was thinking about using a right angle box from a NH chopper to drive the thing from the pto. Maybe I could run a driveshaft from that to the end of this beast sort of like a stalk chopper. Any input would be appreciated. If someday for chance I patent this and make a million dollars I could send you pictures of all the money I made. Kidding!




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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 8:56pm

An old Howard rotovator like this might do the job...It is very heavy, has a slip clutch and gage wheel to control depth....it handles rocks out here, can't imagine manure would be any worse.



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Posted By: J D (Ont)
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 9:07pm
I would try using a device more like a flail mower where the hammers can bend back if you hit something hard. The rototiller idea might work but I think it would be a rough ride. A flail mower is really just a hammermill with light hammers.


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 9:26pm
JD might have the right idea.  There are heaver flail mowers made to chip up branches in orchards.  The flails are made out of cast steel, instead of the pressed steel used on flail mowers.  They have a belt drive along with a slip clutch.

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Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 9:31pm
I know what you are refering to build up in the cow yard is a foot deep, last spring when it thawed I had to borrow the neighbors slinger spreader to handle the soupy mess. the manure with urine and snow basicly becomes ice you could use a frost tooth of some sort  to tear it up  but you still need a spreader that would handle the frozen chunks


Posted By: singingpig
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 12:25am
Originally posted by J D (Ont) J D (Ont) wrote:

I would try using a device more like a flail mower where the hammers can bend back if you hit something hard. The rototiller idea might work but I think it would be a rough ride. A flail mower is really just a hammermill with light hammers.


That was my 1st thought, too.

A tiller would be jumping like crazy on that frozen sh!t


Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 1:02am
how about one of those motorized scrapers, we used to use one in the hog confinment building, has a steel blade that runs back and forth at high speed, can cut under it and raise it with a loader bucket, drop and hopefully break up the frozen stuff into chunks! kinda like getting under a concrete flor! or maybe a jack hammer!


Posted By: wi50
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 7:30am
skidsteer and pallet forks, get the forks close togather and on the concrete, it'll just break up in big chunks

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Posted By: Matt Z
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 10:05am
 Well the fork idea has merit. Sure would like somethin a little more efficient though. Thanx for the feedback guys.


Posted By: chllngr528
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 10:12am
How big is the lot?
I just had to clear out some ice that built up in my equipment yard that was about 5 inches thick. I used a case W20C loader with forks  to get under the ice and break it up then just pushed it into my snow pile. I tried useing the bucket with teeth but wasn't able to get under the ice. If you have a loader tractor with enough weight and power the fork idea might work good for you.


Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 10:15am
A little heat in the concrete would work best but that would be big $$$$.

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Posted By: Amos
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 12:11pm
You want a machine made by Suokone called a Meri Crusher.  It will tear through a foot in no time.  Just have to be careful when it gets down to the concrete that you don't let it get into it as it eats up concrete about half as fast as frozen manure.  It will eave it all just as fine as coarse sand.  I have a 1.8m wide unit.  We use it mostly for stumps and brush but have used it on frozen manure and asphalt, concrete.


Posted By: singingpig
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 1:24pm
Originally posted by Amos Amos wrote:

You want a machine made by Suokone called a Meri Crusher.  It will tear through a foot in no time.  Just have to be careful when it gets down to the concrete that you don't let it get into it as it eats up concrete about half as fast as frozen manure.  It will eave it all just as fine as coarse sand.  I have a 1.8m wide unit.  We use it mostly for stumps and brush but have used it on frozen manure and asphalt, concrete.


Amos, any idea of a USA dealer?  I have gravelly loam soil, full of river rock. I'd like to crush it after picking the large ones out.

link to website:

http://www.suokone.net/english/crusher.htm - http://www.suokone.net/english/crusher.htm


Posted By: Matt Z
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 6:56pm
 Yes! I went to that Suokone website and YA! That looks like perfect solution except: Its made in Finland and I cant find a US dealer but thanks man for the great lead!


Posted By: singingpig
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by Matt Z Matt Z wrote:

 Yes! I went to that Suokone website and YA! That looks like perfect solution except: Its made in Finland and I cant find a US dealer but thanks man for the great lead!

If Amos got one in Canada, there must be a way to get one in the US.

I could swear I saw one in a local JD dealer's equip yard a few years ago.

Oh, here is a dealer in Quebec...it is a forestry machinery dealer so that might be where to look instead of ag:

http://www.hakmet.com/




Posted By: singingpig
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 8:19pm
These guys have the same type of rig...made in Georgia.  Dealers in In, Il, Mo

http://www.faeusa.com



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