doing some outside the box thinking
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Topic: doing some outside the box thinking
Posted By: mlpankey
Subject: doing some outside the box thinking
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 2:46pm
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I recently sold my pulling stuff .Has not been picked up yet schedule differences . I am sure it will be though. I was looking at the rules which say agriculture motor use. This allows the 292 chevy out of a combine . V8 chevys were also used in combines but the rule states no v8s . So I ponder cutting one bank off a v8 and making a cross flow 4 cylinder like the one the midget sprint cars run . I know 327 and 350 chevys were used in combines did any use a bbc . I could just get more cubes with the big block . Small block sb2 heads are capable of flowing 400 cfm but they are usually around 163 cubic inches and 350 horse at 8000rpms in midget 4 cylinder form. Big Block chevy heads are capable of 400 to 500 cfm out of the box. Do you guys think it would make a season before rule change? ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
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Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 3:14pm
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Heck if you want displacement, go get a CAT 3406, they are used in ag applications! :-) Just playin ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 3:35pm
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hmmm... if a truck has farm plates on it, is it 'agricultural' use ????
I know ,'splitting hairs'.......
heck if the NASCAR guys can drill out carb mounting bolts.......
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Posted By: Larry(OH)
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 5:25pm
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Bill Baer did that a few years ago with a 460 or 560 in the NATPA with the IH V8 head on a tractor. Ran good, but rules were changed real quick after ------------- '40 WC puller,'50 WD puller,'50 M puller '65 770 Ollie *ALLIS EXPRESS contact* I can explain it to you, BUT I cannot understand it for you!! |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 6:06pm
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Heres what I am thinking 4.625 bore 5.3 stroke bbc with one side cut off of it to make a 356 cubic inch four cylinder topped with a 12 degree 540cfm profiler head roller cam and lifters of any bbc variety. I think second gear in a WC and 10 grand on the tack would fly down the track. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: Amos
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 6:14pm
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Big block Chev was used in New Holland self propelled forage harvesters. My neighbors had one, a 45 gallon drum was put on instead of the 25 gallon gas tank it came with as they needed all 45 gallons to go an afternoon of filling silo. She sure sounded sweet when it was in the corn rows just starting to break out a field. The exhaust would get glowing red and throw out a little flame. If you were half a concession away you would swear there was a stock car track over where it was. I think it was a 427 cu in
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 6:38pm
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IH built such a critter for use in the Scout. I've only seen one and it was rather odd looking. Half of a V-8. It used the same head I'm told. It somewhat resembled the Chrysler slant 6. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Steve M C/IL
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 10:37pm
| No BBC in AC's.350's in L's or M's or both?G's had 327's I think?(all Gleaners) |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 11:49pm
| I'll vouch for Brian's reference- I had a '64 Scout 80 with a slant-four. IH took off the driver's side bank (actually, they cast the block that way) and covered it with a stamped steel plate. It was half of a 304, which made it a 152. It was a rompin' stompin' machine... I could make zero-to-50 on a good day, but most days, it was tapped-out at 45mph. It wasn't in the greatest state of tune, it was a right-hand drive (Ex-Postal-facto) and someone did a lousy job of spring-over-axle conversion, so it wasn't a good idea to go much past 45mph anyway. |
Posted By: farmer0_1
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 11:52pm
| i saw two such scouts at the pnw ag show both had slant fours |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2011 at 11:57pm
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I had one of those slant 4's in a 63 Scout I bought in Ohio, just after I got out of the Army in 1970. Had a snow plow, which I put in the back. Took 4 days to drive to Colorado. Just about everything passed me on I 70 but it was a fun drive. Sure nice to see the Rockies after nearly two years. Must have had a couple gallons of bondo in it. Drove it with the top off all summer then sold it in the fall to a campground for snow removal. Probably went to China long ago.
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 1:05am
| my gleaner "g" combine has a chev 350 on it |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 1:06am
| also have a gleaner "g" with a 292 chev on it! |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 8:47am
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the scout engine was only 80 hp @4000 rpm if my memory served me. my thinking is all the performance parts for a bbc would work for this .A stroker small block v8 0f 454 cubes would make a 227 four cylinder and with a 400 cfm head we doggies. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2011 at 9:01am
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you can see one of these small blocks made into a four cylinder over on midget madness guy from indy advertising one called he builds the eagle ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 8:08pm
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I had an IH pickup truck with that slant 4 in it, 63 I believe. Never seen another like it, wish I had it back. ------------- Most problems can be solved with the proper application of high explosives. |
Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2011 at 6:22am
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Brian Jasper co. Ia wrote:Posted By: Tramway Guy
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2011 at 7:38am
| Later the Scouts had a 196 (half of a 392) V8. The 152 had a Turbo option in mid-'60s; contemporary with the Corvair Spyder Turbo, and the Olds F85 Jetfire Turbo. |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2011 at 8:45am
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I am thinking half of a bbc 632 ci up to a 805 ci . for 316 to 402 cubic inches. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |