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Topic: 66 super 7 combines sold
Posted By: agcodick
Subject: 66 super 7 combines sold
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 6:52pm
I got word that 66 super 7 gleaners were sold in December making this the most gleaners ever sold in a month by agco. Awesome news. Go gleaner.

Dick



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Posted By: redline
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 7:04pm
I know our local dealer is selling the heck out of them. Amazing what the dealers can do when they have a product they can get excited about. Too bad they don't have a companion tractor to be excited about, too.

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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 8:11pm
I continue to hear the horrors of ownership on Deere combines and that parts availability for the Case IH units seems to be bad.


Posted By: nowversatile
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 10:01pm
Originally posted by agcodick agcodick wrote:

I got word that 66 super 7 gleaners were sold in December making this the most gleaners ever sold in a month by agco. Awesome news. Go gleaner.

Dick
 
And to think that just a very few short years ago the little bullheaded ***** wanted the Gleaner gone! Like another post stated, this is what can happen when passionate employees (which primarily came from the former AC/Gleaner side) are given ownership of a strong equity brand and the tools to build products the customer wants. Unlike what is happening in the rest of the company.
 
Keep the good fight up Gleaner team!


Posted By: HagerAC
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 11:08pm
That is great news to hear.

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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 10:31pm
How many green ones were sold in Dec?

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Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 10:51pm
Originally posted by JohnCO JohnCO wrote:

How many green ones were sold in Dec?
Companies don't release that kind of information to the general public, but last time i toured the john deere combine works, the tour guide (who are usually retired factory workers) told me the average about 30-40 combines a day over a little more than 200 working days a year. Kinda makes gleaners 66 in a month seem kinda depressing.


Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 1:28am
yeah, but 30 out of the 40 are sitting in dealers lots rusting away! lol they had so many out for lease, now they're coming back in!  probably all wore out!


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 6:04am
It a step in the right direction but a far cry from the days Gleaner dominated the US market share back in the 60's and 70's. In about 78'(I forget what year the parts man showed me) Marzolf Implement sold something like 58 F2's. That don't sound right. Gonna have to ask the next time I'm there. Whatever, it was a whole bunch of just that model in one year from one dealer. 

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Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 6:43am
Good for Gleaner.  How many Gleaners painted red did they sell?

Combines are getting so big that their going to outsize some parts of the country, like mine, where the field sizes are small and you can't turn em let alone fill up the rotary and make them efficient.  Hopefully someday someone makes a small combine, like an F2, again.  


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 6:54am
That will never happen.


Posted By: Andrew(southernIL)
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 10:54am
I know what you mean Byron. A friend said one day that this d*** equipment getting so big that they gonna have to figure rather to pull in the field and back out or back in the field and pull out.

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Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 10:57am
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

That will never happen.
 
 
They still make em, just not here. Claas comes to mind.


Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 11:27am
http://agriculture.newholland.com/uk/en/Products/Combine/TC5000/Pages/products_models.aspx - http://agriculture.newholland.com/uk/en/Products/Combine/TC5000/Pages/products_models.aspx

In Europe you can get a 175 hp model from New Holland.  In US the smallest NH combine available is 360 hp.  How tough would it be to offer some of those smaller European combines over here?    Still bigger than an F2 but is manageable.


Posted By: Dale-OH
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 11:39am

All companys build small combines for parts of the world.  I have heard that those small combines cost nearly the same as our larger machines. 



Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 2:56pm
Just toured the Deere combine plant in Moline, IL.  Our guide told us they have a plant in China that is still building the 45, 55, and 105 model combines.
If they were as fussy with the mechanics of the machines as they are with the paint, you wouldn't see wheat fields with what we call the "John Deere stripes" around here.  Those are the green stripes through the harvested wheat fields that show up from the missed grain a couple weeks after harvest with Deere combines.


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Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by Dale-OH Dale-OH wrote:

All companys build small combines for parts of the world.  I have heard that those small combines cost nearly the same as our larger machines. 

 
 
With the exception of the plot combines cant see how that could be. Smaller combines are built for smaller acreage farmers who obviosuly cant afford the big monsters.
 
I think those Claas crop tigers cost the equivalent of $50,000 in India


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 4:22pm
It does seem that some day fairly soon where will be a market for smaller SP combines here in NA.  Maybe it will be an independent company making a deal with a manufacturer to custom build a machine for NA.  Something with the bells but not the whistles that a small farmer can afford, $50,000 -$75,000.  High but look what a new pickup cost's and a pickup will never pay for it's self.  Like someone posted, there are areas in the country where even the smallest model of the currant combines won't fit easily.  

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Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 5:42pm
Guys, it just can't be done.  It would cost 65% as much to build a F2 as it would an R75.  Who would pay that much for a new small combine?    
Cost is in plant space, labor - about the same on any combine - inventory, economies of scale, metal , engineering, money cost etc.
Now there MIGHT be a market to take a F3 or M3 hydro, strip it and totally reman it - everything new, tires, eng hydro etc , we have run the costs,  and make it like NEW with a warranty with 16' header - $95,000  list price !!!!!!!!!!!!!  We gave up on the project - unless any of you guys want to start writing checks?????? ( we would have to have insurance which is included for legal protection - 5% of sale price - and that is close to what we all pay for in part when we buy anything new.  Hey- this good old US of A turns out 150 ((use to be 100, 10 years ago )) lawyers to 1 engineer )
  


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 6:27pm
It would take totally different ag and foreign policies for that to work. It would work if the political changes would take place. Get rid of the BS lawsuits, get rid of most of the income tax, reintroduce import taxes as high as they were back when the country was strong
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Posted By: NickT(Ky)
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 8:37pm
Stop rollin' down hill like a snow ball headed for hell.................


Posted By: wheatbreeder
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 8:51pm
Tbran  is right on the money farms are going larger not smaller the numbers for a smaller machine are not present. If you are a smaller grower me buy the machine's  that match your size there not made any more 
Morley 



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Posted By: TomYaz
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2011 at 5:41am
Originally posted by wheatbreeder wheatbreeder wrote:

Tbran  is right on the money farms are going larger not smaller the numbers for a smaller machine are not present. If you are a smaller grower me buy the machine's  that match your size there not made any more 
Morley 

 
 
Yeah the number of farms that could used the F3 has decreased.  But believe it or not the number of really small farms has jumped.
 
http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?contentid=2009/02/0036.xml&contentidonly=true - http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usda/usdahome?contentid=2009/02/0036.xml&contentidonly=true
 
Enter the All-Crop.....(you knew that was coming didnt you? LOL!)
 
 
 


Posted By: AC720
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2011 at 1:17pm
 Thats good news about the Gleaner S67 and S77's selling well, I really do hope that sales continue to climb with these new combines. I doubt I will be seeing an S77 in my area anytime soon though, we got a great local Agco/MF dealer but its hard convincing people to try out a Gleaner, especially with the Deere dealer putting up a huge new building, theres lots of Green and Red machines around. Still I can't help but like those Transverse Rotary Gleaners are a Really Great machine, put a CLEAN sample in the bin as well. 
 
Take Care Jason B


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Date Posted: 17 Feb 2011 at 6:12pm
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Date Posted: 17 Feb 2011 at 6:13pm
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