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Topic: How to make a G a "high Crop"
Posted By: Corbincdc
Subject: How to make a G a "high Crop"
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 4:43pm
I grow vegetables on raised beds and need a bit more clearance with the bottom of my tractor and my cultivation equipment.  I have been thinking of two things.  First, I could get larger rims and tires. I have also seen people modify the axles?  Do you know of any resources? Thanks   



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Posted By: Corbincdc
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 4:57pm
Oh the Tractors are  G's 


Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 5:15pm
Here's a picture.

http://www.tractorshed.com/cgi-bin/gallery/photo_pic.cgi?pic=http;//www.tractorshed.com/gallery/tphotos/a6318.jpg&firstrec=1&lastrec=15&Parameter=&mode=All&what=tphotos

Dusty


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Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 8:20pm
this won't be a store bought thing, you will have to build it you're self
Here's some food for thought-







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Posted By: Herb(GA)
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 8:39pm
Corbincdc; please remember that all "hi-crop" tractors have a significantly higher center of gravity (than normal tractors), and therefore are more vulnerable to rolling over when operated on a hillside, or going through a ditch, etc.


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 8:42pm
Why not bolt a set of B or C finals on and then add your wheels? 

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Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 8:46pm
seen that before -

from the 2010 G roundup




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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 8:48pm
Ok this may sound odd but..
 
If the beds are just '1 G wide', could you add concrete blocks or 8by8 timbers along the edges to lift the G up higher?
 
yeah, I know silly idea, jes another way of looking at it !
 


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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 8:52pm
So if you used C finals, would the 30 inch G wheels bolt up. If not you could alter the wheel centers to make it so.
I would think, if you add the B finals and leave the 24's on it, you would be REAL slow in granny gear.


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 10:09pm
yea, and just  the opposite when you add bigger 30-36-38 inch tires.  Your speed will increase by the ratios of the diameter. For instance, if you have 24 inch tires and low gear is 2 MPH, if you install 36 inch tires that is 50% bigger so you will go 50% faster or 3 MPH.

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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 10:15pm
All I was thinking is, if you start out with 30 in tires and have the normal speeds, if you add the C finals with their normal gear reduction, the tractor would be slow with 30 in wheels and even slower with the 24's.

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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2011 at 11:26pm
By putting on the B or C axles, wouldn't you also have to flip the ring gear?  Is that possible on a G?  I know guys used to reverse WC's all the time.

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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2011 at 7:16am
I guess you would John, I hadn't thought about that. 

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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2011 at 11:02am
I use concrete railroad ties for my raised beds....just drive the 175D up on them and drop the Howard rotovator for a one pass job. I then plant everything close together so it shades out the weeds....just takes a little work with a hoe.

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Posted By: Corbincdc
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2011 at 12:10pm
Thanks guys.  I'm thinking I will go with the bigger tires and rims and modifying the front end. Similar to Joem's first post third picture down.  What size do you think those tiers are? I was thinking maybe 13.6 by 38?  Could I go bigger? Besides modifying the rims and front end are there any major concerns?   


Posted By: Corbincdc
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2011 at 12:25pm
I was also looking a a 9.5 x 42?? What's your thoughts? too big?



Posted By: Corbincdc
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2011 at 12:33pm
Also where would I go to find a rim for a 9.5 by 42 tire 


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2011 at 1:06pm
http://www.millertire.com/ - http://www.millertire.com/
 Go to rear rims: then flat base and you will find 10-42 or 8-42.


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Posted By: acgman
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2011 at 5:18pm
Our G Hi Crop has 7:00x36 rears and 4:00x15 fronts. If you ever by Muscatine ia. we are just across the river by Joy Ill. and you are welcome to take measurements off it.  Thanks Dave.


Posted By: AKA.ON
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2011 at 9:57pm
Is that row crop G factory? That is one cool looking tractor.

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