FWA ON EBAY INFO
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Topic: FWA ON EBAY INFO
Posted By: DarrylinWA
Subject: FWA ON EBAY INFO
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2010 at 10:44am
Just a FYI if anyone is bidding on the FWA on Ebay of Polks. When my friend Bob was there bidding on that tractor a few years ago in Idaho, when he was talking to a few people that knew the tractor, it had a pretty hard life. Bob did crawl under it and said that there was no drive line at the time. Also when he spun the the pinion that he could spin it very freely with 1 finger. Just thought I would give a little info after I talked to him this morning.
Have a great day, Darryl
------------- B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.
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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2010 at 11:46am
Link to 220 FWA on ebay:
Gary
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320633971468&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320633971468&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2010 at 6:22pm
A few bidders are interested, way out of my range.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant
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Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2010 at 9:23pm
I remember it being advertised for the auctionwith drivetrain parts missing.
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Posted By: TREVMAN
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 10:30am
With tires worn that bad I think it is pretty obvious that the thing has had the hell worked out of it. I would think you are looking at a 20000 dollar rebuild after you buy it, way outta my league.
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 1:54pm
It's up to $18,600 with just under 2 hr to go. A couple guys really want that tractor. Wonder what it will end up at. I'd never seen Polk buy anything that wasn't green. Maybe they only come to Colorado for green tractors.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant
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Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 1:57pm
Either two guys want it, or one wants it, and one wants to run up the price. Money breeds larceny.
------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 2:02pm
I considered that GBACFan, but wanted to give them the benefit of doubt. As someone once said, it only takes one bidder and a good auctioneer!
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Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 2:39pm
The reserve is still not met. I wouldn't give half that for it.
------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 3:30pm
It just met the reserve at $25 grand with 24 minutes to go.
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Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 3:54pm
It will be interesting if it actually changed hands.
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 4:03pm
I see in the bidding log there were at least 2 people bidding up to 22,000 then the winning bidder hit it again to $25,000, probably to get it over the reserve. Yes, It will be interesting to see if it does change hands or is relisted on Ebay or elsewhere. The big question is will it be worth $50,000 after restoration?
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant
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Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 4:09pm
Couldn't an 8050 FWA be purchased and restored for $50,000? Hmm, I know which one I would choose!!
------------- Mark
B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity
Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not.
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Posted By: Rick
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 4:24pm
Just wondering here,but if the 220 FWA tractor on Ebay was bid up to the reserve,then why wouldn't it trade hands? I could only see this happening,if the person selling it actually wanted more than the reserve and bid it up himself to keep it. Or,is this all just everyone's thoughts on the matter? Just asking questions here guys. Rick
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Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 4:30pm
Two possibilities, as I see it. There was a buyer, and he had dialogue with the seller to see what the reserve was, matched it, and bought the tractor. The second possibility is the owner (or his shill) was bidding to coax the other bidder along, and jumped his bid to the reserve price at the end hoping bidder #2 would follow, and he did not.
------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain
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Posted By: Rick
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 4:37pm
Thanks for your thoughts GBACFan,I appreciate it. I was kinda wondering that myself,in that maybe the seller was trying to lure the other bidder/bidders on. Thanks,again. Rick
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Posted By: DarrylinWA
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 4:53pm
Rick
With the comments here and also my thoughts, I think the above pretty well sums it up. Heres a few more Food for thoughts.
Got trigger happy bidding and did not work out well
Polk had someone buy it back for him.
I have talked to Dennis myself over the phone and emailed on a 21 at one time and also saw him in CA at a large yard and just watched him on items. I cant figure him out. I have talked to a few people that have delt with him before and also at his auctions and 9 times out of 10 it is usually more negitive than postive. To me thats a red flag. I have talked to a few over the phone when this was on ebay and there thoughts were the same. Its sad that a person that can find and buy so much tractors almost has a power trip so to speak. Dont want to talk bad about a person but sometimes when a kettle is black, its really black.
Take care, Darryl
It could of changed hands but I still dont think so
------------- B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.
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Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 4:56pm
Or two were bidding and one wanted it bad enough to bid up to the reserve after the other guy was done.
Does this auction follow the "Their not making them any more" theory where people with deep pockrts pay ridiculess prices for the bragging rights.
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Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 5:29pm
who says its a ridiculous price. One person wanted it and thats what he was willing to pay for it. Maybe this person has a complete front end laying aroung to put under it. I watched a 220FWA at an auction bring over $30,000, only had Pto and no 3 point and needed a paint job in my opinion. If that sob was green it would have brought twice that. Just saying that collector tractors like this one dont surprise me with high prices. If i had lots of money just taking up space i would be on my way to pick it up right now, i can tell you that much. Again just my two cents worth!!!!!
------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F
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Posted By: DarrylinWA
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 5:34pm
Luke Your at least 10 cents for a good comment like that, maybe more LOL!!!!
Good point
Take care, Darryl
------------- B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling.
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Posted By: dpower
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 5:59pm
I dont feel bad getting mine for 19,500 at Lennox auction. people thought i was nutz then but i figured it was worth the money.
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Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 6:17pm
Thanks Darryl, it may not be a good thing, but ive never had a problem speaking my mind!! Its got me in trouble a few times!! LOL
------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F
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Posted By: TerrySWIA
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 6:24pm
There are only, so many available. At $25,000 I think you could easily tie up another $20,000 in it. I think to buy a good one you are around $40,000. So whoever bought this if its sold, could take their time and not have to put out the whole $40,000 at one shot. The front end parts are available if you know what you are doing. That front end was used in other equipment. I don't know about the drop box components, that would be about the only thing that would bother me. If anyone on here bought it good luck to you.
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2011 at 6:26pm
I kind of wonder if Darryl is on to something. They used to show some of Polk's auctions on RFDTV and everything always started at unrealistic prices, but would sell for more money than around here.
------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford
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