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Topic: Energy cells

Posted By: c linn
Subject: Energy cells
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 9:35pm

My D19d energy cells were leaking so I had my machine shop machine them now the are leaking slightly. You can not hear them but if you spray soap on them you will see bubbles.What do I do now do I run them or not. Thanks for any help

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Posted By: Steve M C/IL
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 9:51pm

i think they are supposed to be "lapped" to seal

Posted By: wi50
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 10:30pm

I'd probably just run it, keep an eye on it but a little time and carbon therapy may do it good

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Posted By: D-17_Dave
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2010 at 10:51pm

You need to lap them in so they are seated completely. The leakage could lead to burning and more serious problems where you can ruin the head.

Posted By: c linn
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 5:21am

One cell was burned badly in the head so he cut it deeper and we replaced the cell and capThe problem is worse now because he rebuilt the head. We have done a complete overhaul on the engine including cutting counter bores . Before the head was cleaned up we had no leak.

Posted By: skipwelte
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 9:12am

Rule of thumb, if they dont leak, DONT fix em cause they aint broke!!! Just a small leak may carbon up and stop. I never had much luck lapping them, ususally wound up with the dam thing leaking. HTH

Posted By: Bob(FL)
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 10:29am

If they cut one deeper in the head you might have problems getting it to seal due to the bridge style hold down, I had problems with getting mine to seal and found out that when I painted the caps before installing the bridges, when it got hot they wouild get lose and have to tighten them up.

Posted By: nowaktj
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2010 at 11:57am

What actually should I guy worry about when trying to get these to seal?

I took one out and in putting it back in it seemed to fit loose. Does the sealing occur on the stepped angles?

Also, now do you know that you have lapped the caps well enough? You could lap these and still have high spots from the cap clamped into place on the high spots on the "nozzle" and it would leak

Terry

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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2010 at 2:08pm

After reading this post, I hope mine don't leak. They didn't before, and I specifically told the machine shop to not mess with them, and they didn't. They did hot tank the head. I'm hoping the hot tanking didn't bother any.

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