who all likes original paint??!!
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Topic: who all likes original paint??!!
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Subject: who all likes original paint??!!
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 6:37pm
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Hey guys I was cleaning up some photos on the computer and found these. These are some tractors we have that are original paint and low hours. I am one of the collectors along with my dad that just love very clean well cared for tractors. I just wanted to share. It would be great if everyone would post a picture of some tractors in there original work cloths!! Happy holidays! Andrew      ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
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Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 6:39pm
| Gotta say, You can't replicate the look from the time they left the factory until now! I always love to see original tractors stay original. Hate to see the patina of a great barn find, only to have the new owner think they gotta strip down the paint, tear into the engine, and put an auto class paint job on it. I hate it! I mean yes, they look nice, and I totally understand if the tractor didn't have original paint on, but I just don't understand why some people don't want to keep them original. |
Posted By: split51
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 6:41pm
Here is my original B110. THe only thing not original is I had the seat recovered.
 ------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 6:42pm
I used to own my late grandfather 1964 Series III D17 with original paint and now I own a 1973 170 with original paint although the loader has been repainted. Original paint tractors are nice. 
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Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 6:52pm
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I love to see a nice original tractor. These are all great pictures. ------------- David Gibson http://www.darkecountysteam.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.darkecountysteam.com 1956 WD45 |
Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 6:58pm
| I'll take original rust over a top dollar repaint thats the wrong shade of orange. |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:01pm
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I'm one of the guys that just likes them original.
Now with that said I do like to see them all painted up; But they are original only one time.
Here's my three.
 ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:04pm
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Excellent originals are my favorite by far. You can only original once!! I have a WC, WD-45, D-12 series I, D-15 II, and a D-17 IVd that will never be restored. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: GARY(OH/IN)
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:05pm
| That first picture of the 190 was just posted at the time I found this site. Beautiful photo! |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:10pm
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Hey Andrew,
I particularly like the WD-45 and round baler.
That is the color I remember them being as original
when I was a teenager back in the 50s!!
Love the picture.
Thanks.
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Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:12pm
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That is my brother Davids 190xt. It is a sweet machine!! He repainted the wheels and front weights. It was a very well taken care of tractor. It really runs and starts well also you can tell it has very few hours on it. Great photos everyone!! Keep them coming!! Andrew ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:23pm
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Found a couple more photos. Andrew    ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:48pm
Heres mine. ------------- German Shepherd dad 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 #WD234847 1951 Allis Chalmers WD #WD88193 |
Posted By: D-allis Iowa
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:51pm
Andrew, I like the good originals better, also. They are getting fewer and fewer. I bought the D19 from Luke R. You have seen both of these, but I thought I would post them. Dallas |
Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:51pm
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Without the heat houser: The brown/tan Chevy with the AC orange pin striping in back is mine also  ------------- German Shepherd dad 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 #WD234847 1951 Allis Chalmers WD #WD88193 |
Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:56pm
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A nice, well kept original is hard to beat. There is nothing wrong with restoring one either though, it's all up to the owners personal preference. Some of the ones in those pics are so nice there is no point in repainting them. ------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:06pm
| Being in the 'Work Clothes' never bothered me, they were meant to work and die a slow death being looked at as a collector's piece. |
Posted By: Oldoug
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:08pm
Dad's 1972 200, second owner, purchased in 1979, 6600 hours on second tach would guess close to 10,000 overall, wheels and frame touched up in 2004 during engine overhaul.
 Dad's 8030, original one owner purchased new in 1986. This side is orginal, front shroud replaced once and other hood painted due to damage once. 4900 hours and always shedded. ------------- Matt Folkers FOLKERS RESTORATION Restoring vintage things to last so the future can enjoy our past. |
Posted By: Oldoug
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:12pm
Getting the job done during harvest. The 200 has since had the cream in the grill repainted.------------- Matt Folkers FOLKERS RESTORATION Restoring vintage things to last so the future can enjoy our past. |
Posted By: Oldoug
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:13pm
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The 8030 has never even had the wheels or frame repainted. ------------- Matt Folkers FOLKERS RESTORATION Restoring vintage things to last so the future can enjoy our past. |
Posted By: cougar766
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:14pm
| for years I wanted to get my Lady repainted then after the fire in 08 I had to repaint her now I would love to have her back in her old original paint and work clothes |
Posted By: BurtIA
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:14pm
| I'll take original paint any time over a repaint. Especially a wrong color repaint. |
Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:16pm
| The 200 and 8030 are beautiful!!! |
Posted By: dpower
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:26pm
100 series are great original. here are a few low houred original machines   
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Posted By: Mike Kroupa
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:27pm
 1966 D-17 ser. IV and a ? yr. 82T 9' sickle mower. Wheels on the tractor were painted as well as the front weights and bracket., Mike
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Posted By: dpower
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:29pm
also a couple of low houred 7000 series. 7045 has 1300 hrs and the 7020 has 2800 hrs.  
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Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:36pm
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This is my dads original 1936 wc. We found this from the original owner and it sat in the shed for years. Starts and runs great with original tires. Everything is original. This is one of my favorites. Keep the photos coming guys!! THey all look great! Andrew  ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: Matt MN
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 12:49pm
Here is my 170 with 2200 hrs.
Here is my 37 WC with wide front, faded paint but I beleive original 
------------- Unless your are the lead horse the scenery never changes!! |
Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 12:55pm
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did anyone hear about that all original unstylled wc on smok stak a couple months ago it was all original wc looks great had been sitting in the shed forever and has very low hours------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
Posted By: Jamie (KY)
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 1:04pm
Here's a pic of my D14 before I repainted her. I liked the original except the front wheels were unrepairable when we got her so I had to paint the new ones. The front around the radiator was already primed from whoever had it before me. The rest looked pretty good for original, but since so much new paint had to put down on her, I figured I'd do it all or it would look pretty weird.
 ------------- Just when I thought I was finishing my "honey-do-list", she turned the page!!! |
Posted By: Embellem
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 1:10pm
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It's the age old question and I don't know if there's a right answer. I personally prefer original if it's in somewhat decent shape. Those scratches and patches of surface rust are remnants of a tractor's untold history of daily usefulness... ...or maybe I'm just lazy and the "history" thing is a good excuse to not do anything |
Posted By: John D
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 1:22pm
Here are some of our 1964 D17 series 3 we got this fall. Our plans are to just repaint the rims and grill. The rest looks good to me!  |
Posted By: Bob D. (La)
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 1:25pm
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While I do like original, most of the ones I end up with are non original rust. Kind of hard to make them look decent unless repainted. ------------- When you find yourself in a hole,PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL!!! |
Posted By: Reeseholler
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 2:04pm
| You guys are making me feel bad.... I'm repainting mine for my grandmother. It sat out all it's life and didn't look the best and I want her to be able to see it the way it was when she was a little girl. only around 1000 original hours on it. keep those originals lookin good! |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 2:10pm
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How's this for original paint...?
http://www.allischalmers.com/new/forum/uploads/351/pic1.jpg - uploads/351/pic1.jpg
sat there for 25+ years...
took 3 weeks of tlc and it came back to life.
------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 2:52pm
I have been debating repainting my 7050. The wheels for sure need paint. Don't have any pics on my computer yet. Just old fashioned pictures. Here's one of my brother's XT Landhandler. The front weight was painted white a few years ago otherwise it's untouched.  ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 2:59pm
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Hey Jason.... you have got the best collection i have ever seen .. hope to stop by next fall also ...
michael ------------- WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer |
Posted By: split51
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 3:20pm
I know its not original (green) but the tinwork was repainted in the early 30s to look like the newer tractors. I thought of repainting it but the patena has really grown on me.
 ------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo |
Posted By: kev/ont
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 7:09pm
| Personally, I like to see them however you are willing to present them, painted, original or restored, at the the of the day he (or she) who own's the tractor gets to decide how it will be presented. All the rest of us can do is appreciate the work that goes into keeping an original tractor looking good or the back breaking sweat that goes into building a trailor queen. Best of all Noone is right or wrong it's a free country. |
Posted By: RickUP
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 7:22pm
| I perfer original everything, paint, if it looks decent and most is still there. Cars or tractors, I'm hooked on original. Just me. |
Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 7:59pm
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I would not paint a good one but when buying tractor from the south they are usually not in very good shape alot of welds and find alot more wrong when you sand blast
back to metal.
This is the best one out of the bunch that will stay as is.
D 15 high crop
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Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 8:03pm
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Anybody that has talked to me knows I am a sucker for original tractors. Dont get me wrong, its nice to see a perfect paint job but, original tells me more stories! Jim This is our 1963 series III, not the greatest paint but she has 8000 hours on her too. This tractor has been on the farm since new, we have repainted the wheels and grill.  This is my WD45 and drill. I did overhaul the motor this last year and had to paint the engine due the fact that there was not any paint left.  Our workhorse, the 190XT series III.  One of my newer toys, this one is about half original paint.  My series I D15 fresh from the farm.  Dads 1953 WD.  The 170 and 185.  1948 WC, this tractor is a sweetheart to drive.  This is another "been here since new tractors". Not the greatest paint, but she has alot of hours under her belt.  My D15 is pulling the wagon in this shot. It has also had the wheels and grill repainted.  Sorry Andrew but you opened up a can of worms for me! lol I will try to post some friends tractors that are original. |
Posted By: tommc
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 8:14pm
 
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Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 8:25pm
Here is my '28 Allis still working.
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Posted By: JohnCinMd
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 8:51pm
I got into the hit & miss engine hobby with my grandfather's Galloway sawrig before I got interested in AC's. I guess it was a combination of appreciating the way the old original engines looked, along with grandpa's WD that I inherited that's led me to love the original look. Here's Papa's WD along with a B that I bought last year.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 8:57pm
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Andrew, That unstyled WC with the canvas rad cover is my most favorite picture every on this forum. There are tractors with more original paint around maybe, but that WC and the drill it was hooked to are special. Charlie
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: split51
Date Posted: 13 Dec 2010 at 10:37pm
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Nice picture Phil. ------------- 1929 20-35 sn17662 B1 w/snow blade B10 w/sickle mower B110 w/mower deck B110 w/tiller B112 w/grader blade B210 w/plo |
Posted By: David KY
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2010 at 6:32am
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Posted By: Dale-OH
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2010 at 8:57am
These are two originals that Dad and I have found the 185 has just under 1000 Hours and the 7000 has 1600 Hours.
 D14 that my grandpa sold new
 This picker still has the dealers name painted on the center snout where it was sold new
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Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2010 at 10:56am
 ------------- German Shepherd dad 1957 Allis Chalmers WD45 #WD234847 1951 Allis Chalmers WD #WD88193 |
jaybmiller wrote:Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2010 at 12:18pm
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Here is my favorite one we have. It is an earily 200 with factory canopy. I did paint the wheels on it. Very fun tractor!! Also my little 5030 it has 1600 hours on it and just a little cream puff. I love all the photos!!! They all look wonderfull!!
Andrew
   ------------- Andrew Gubbels Gubbels Restoration |
Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2010 at 8:29pm
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Sorry but I was gone to a New Holland meeting the last couple days so I am playing catch up! I thought I would post some of the nicest originals I have seen. WD45 Vegetable  One amazing 185.  This is my friend Bruce's 1958 D17 Diesel  Not A-C but find another original like this!  This one was used by one of our customers until about 6-7 years ago. They traded it in on a 8030. The Buttjer's of Charles City gave it a good home.  This is one of the best gems I have ever seen. This UC was used for farming one year then put into storage! Notice the tires?  Of course not original paint, but how bout the tires! You dont get any better than this!   |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2010 at 8:57pm
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Jim, was that picture of the 45HC taken at Richland Center,Wi.? It just kinda looks like the lay of the land at that show. Charlie ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2010 at 9:21pm
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This is exactly where it was taken. Loren Durst owns the tractor. Jim |
Posted By: Rick of HopeIN
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2010 at 9:37pm
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unfortunately in many parts of the country unless they are kept inside they start rusting quick. I love a nice tractor in original paint. Reminds me of how they looked when I was growing up and they were less than 20 years old. Some tractors got to sleep under a lean to roof. Rarely were they washed or repainted. In summer they mostly sat out. ------------- 1951 B, 1937 WC, 1957 D14, -- Thanks and God Bless |