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Topic: B steering support bracket
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Subject: B steering support bracket
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 6:49pm
When did Allis start putting the support bracket on the B? I just noticed the 2 for sale in the classifieds are posted as a 1940 and 1950 and neither one has the steering support.

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Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 10:12pm
always had them. Bob


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 10:20pm
I don't know how they could have always had em when they didn't put tapped holes in the torque tube to mount the bracket.



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Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 10:22pm
I have B's from 39 to47 and ca's to 55, and they all have the post. Bob


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 10:26pm
I'm not talking about the post in front of the steering wheel. I'm talking about the outboard support that was added to the steering gearbox. Look at the picture I posted, there is no support bracket on the output shaft of the steering gearbox.

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Posted By: Ted in NE-OH
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 10:30pm
As far as I know, that support bracket was on the C and CA only

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Posted By: Chalmersbob
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2010 at 10:39pm
That is a Gemmer gear box. The Ross box had the outside support which
 was used on the "C" & CA. I can't find a listing for it in my parts book. Bob


Posted By: Bee
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 4:54am
CA




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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:23am
Bee, that must be a borderline CA. It has the new style air cleaner from mid 52 or so on, but still has the pin hitch. I don't think too many CA's after 53 had the pin hitch, but I have been wrong before.

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Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:37am
Same here, I don't think the B ever had one.


Posted By: tomdavison
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 10:50am
   I have a 42 C that has been in the family since new.  I originally had the Gemmer box but we changed it to a Ross because the Gemmers were trouble.  The support for the steering sector (box) was added around 1946.  They were  made available as a "fix" to the problem with the sector coming loose from the torque tube.  The holes in the torque tube had to be drilled and tapped to mount the support.  I don't know aout the Bs.  I have a 1953 B that has the support and it is the same support that is on a CA.


Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 3:42pm
I don't think you will find a B steering box that the end was long enough to reach the bracket saddle. 


Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:23pm
I never paid any attention to the late Bs with the CA type torque tube. They could have had the support plate. Prior to using the CA type torque tube the older Bs did not need them or use them. I can find no refrence for external steering gear support brackets like used on a C or CA for any Bs


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 7:37pm
Thanks Ken, that kinda makes sense. The late B's shared a few things with the CA. At least one B has it cause Tom has one. 

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