Can I be banned?
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Topic: Can I be banned?
Posted By: DanNESD
Subject: Can I be banned?
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 10:33pm
| Whould I be banned from this forum if I bought a (gasp, cough, choke) John Deere 70? I have never liked them darn popping johnnies but this one is a diesel and old diesels interest me. It also has a factory wide front and is in very good original condition. The guy wants $1000 for it which I don't think is to bad but my inlaws would never let me live it down if I bought it because I'm always giving them a bad time about their deeres. But I guess I would be more worried about upsetting you guys. LOL |
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 10:42pm
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Your in laws might be nicer to you if you did have a "token" JD. They can't be too bad if they let you marry into the family. A grand for a diesel 70 is a bargain around here.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 10:55pm
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Sometimes you need another something to know why you like what you do. So call it a reminder and buy it , sounds like a good price. And I wish I still had the B I sold .. Besides I have a IH 460 utility also . ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Harvey/pa
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 11:00pm
| There is a popular member from Mo. that has one of those green things that keeps getting into his pictures & he has not been banned. He does keep saying its for sale tho. I think you will be forgiven, especially at that price, better jump on it. Don't you agree Don??...Harvey |
Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 11:19pm
| I think you only have to be worried about being banned if you buy something that says Deutz or Massey on it!!!! |
Posted By: Steve M C/IL
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 11:33pm
| Banned or not I'd buy it.Them 2-lungers were cool in their own way.On a hard pull you can feel each power stroke! |
Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 12:06am
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Harvey that "popular" member has not one but TWO JD's...only one is green...the other is yellow...just to set the record straight. Mike P.S. ... for full disclosure I do own a JD item...a pull type disk...here is our "popular" member doing a "field demonstration" with it behind his 45......  Better view of said JD item after our "popular" member was helped "out of" his "field demonstration":  ------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 5:47am
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You should by it and then use it in demos next to a 45 or 17 in the field to prove how inadequate the green machine really is. There's your excuse. I passed on a 720 diesel all painted up and running real nice for $1500. The guy needed the money but at the time I had none. It was 10 years ago. I did have a 43 A that I sold to a guy in Orange city Iowa. That was almost 10 years ago, $800 but it wasn't running at the time. I paid $500 for it when it was running back in the early 90's. Probably shouldn't have sold it but really didn't like driving it. Wd was a much better tractor. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 7:08am
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That does sound like a buy that you shouldn't pass up, and it will make you appreciate your allis' more, Darrel |
Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 7:12am
| I would not say it is unanimous with only nine replies but I do not forsee bad luck in your future.................so go for it. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 7:23am
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Tell them you wanted a green tractor so you would know first hand how bad they were. LOL ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Rogers
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 8:03am
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Buy it! Folks would be more apt to to think your crazy if you didn't. We're all a bit crazy sometimes. But you want it, and it's there. Post pictures. ------------- Think for yourself and be your own expert. Be willing to change your mind; however, willingness to change your mind doesn’t mean that you will. Blindly following any path is the pinnacle of insanity. |
Posted By: Sam T-Ga
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 8:19am
| Sounds like a good Christmas present for the wife, then it would still be on the green side of the family. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 8:27am
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Wifes just don't seem to understand that you bought it for them thing. I picked up a nice fly rod and a nice spinning rod and reel for her, then found a nice outboard. When I told her about the boat i was going to get her for Valentines Day.. Somehow they just don't appreciate generosity. ( also don't buy her a new vacuum cleaner for Christmas )
Hmm tractor like dad has ? might get away with that ! ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: WC7610
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 8:28am
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A JD 60/70 is on my wish list someday as well.
I get really tired of the debates going back and forth. I like all the old tractors, all companies had their "old standby's" and their "black sheep".
Buy it, that's a bargain if it is in the condition you claim. If it is a diesel with a pony start, that could be some big bucks..... ------------- Thanks Most Bad Government has grown out of Too Much Government- Thomas Jefferson |
Posted By: WC Dale
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 9:16am
| Sounds like if you get it and are not happy you can sell it for a profit to use towards more orange! |
Posted By: Jamie (KY)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 9:37am
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We've got my 1957 AC D14, a 1952 John Deere A, and a 1945 John Deere H. I've run down JD's ever since I've been into tractors. My reasoning was just because the green stuff cost more money and wasn't any better. After Dad got his A and H, I've got to where I like the 2 cylinders. They aren't as bad as I thought, and the sound is another story. I'm still an AC guy but am not ashamed to drive a JD. In fact, I'm driving the H in the Christmas parade pulling a JD 953 wagon that Dad rebuilt this year. I loaded the H just this week to take to a friends house. While I was there, his neighbor had to come check out that little "cute" machine. He was full of questions. I then stopped at the gas station on the way home to put some fuel in the truck and was questioned again by the guys at the pump next to me about the hp and year. I then went to pay for the fuel and the guy inside was full of questions as well. Then, before I pulled out of the parking lot, some guy was checking it out and about rear-ended someone because he wasn't watching where he was going.My Allis would have never stirred up that kind of response. What is it people like about those green and yellow tractors? ------------- Just when I thought I was finishing my "honey-do-list", she turned the page!!! |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 9:50am
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Buy it! But just to preserve your reputation ship it down to me and I will store it for you.
------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: R Aiken
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 10:02am
| A green one is ok. I have a 46A in the barn and a few more out in the weeds. No one ever see's them in the summer but they are starting to show up with this snow we are geting. As far as Massy , is OK with Morton if they are Massy Harris , before Fergieson or Agco. |
Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 10:07am
| Yes R Aiken, I agree with that one too. |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 10:09am
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They go for a lot more than $1,000 around here ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 10:26am
I've got a sweet running 1930 Massey Harris (actually a Wallis) that I've had for a few years and I'm still on here!!
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Posted By: tractorchuckie
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 10:37am
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an 1000 bucks for an jd70 is an great price. The only thing I would be cautious is with the fuel system when mine brother was looking at an 830 deere I ask around and the fuel system on the 2 cyliner can get very pricey as well the pups. But i would thing the wide front end would be worth that price. thxchuck ------------- still looking for the holy grail of Allis |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 11:02am
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I like to keep a couple of off color tractors and equipment around just in case I need to sell something.... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: naylorbros
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 12:10pm
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The wide front, if it is a Deere, should sell for more than $1000.00. I have seen the advertised for up to $1500 for one in good condition. You can sink a lot of money into the pony if it is having problems. I have one of those little V4 beasts apart on my bench right now. A lot of the pony parts are NLA through Deere, but you can find the aftermarket. I do not know why they put ponies on their tractors, if everything is right in the big engine they will start at 20 degrees one the first or second time it comes up on the compression stroke. Ken
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Posted By: GlenninPA
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 12:20pm
| If no one has been banned over in the political section, I seriously doubt that a green tractor over here could even hold a candle to that area........... |
Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 2:04pm
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Don't worry about it. It's a great deal. If you like it, buy it. The wife shouldn't even have a problem with it, being that she has green in the family already. My family has a little green lying around. Dad and cousin "share" a 2040 with FEL for chores and bush-hogging. We even have an 8N with a FEL. That one hasn't even been started in years. They used to use it to clean out the chicken house. It is otherwise useless, and I imagine they slept well after trying to steer that thing all day. Guess it was better than a shovel.
Lots of guys like different color tractors, myself included. Just not Massives.(sorry, had to put that in. LOL!) ------------- I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me! |
Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 3:04pm
That's right. If you get a JD we just joke around but if it is a Deutz or a MF...
 ------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500 |
morton(pa) wrote:Posted By: Reindeer
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 3:23pm
I have to admit that I have a JD 40C, but then I could not find a good H3 anywhere near me:) Would not blush at a JD 70 in any case.
 When the snow gets deep, hard to beat the traction. ------------- |
Posted By: Larry(OH)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 3:27pm
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I'm with Eldon on this one ------------- '40 WC puller,'50 WD puller,'50 M puller '65 770 Ollie *ALLIS EXPRESS contact* I can explain it to you, BUT I cannot understand it for you!! |
Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 5:34pm
| That is a great price on a wide front 70 diesel that was the second tractor i ever bought. would not sell it for anything i used to put alot of food plots and to put up round bales. |
Posted By: D-allis Iowa
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 5:51pm
| I have 3 Deere's 70, B and a H. They make me appreciate my orange. |
Posted By: Dean/MN
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:02pm
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I do have to admit that I own 2 JD's. They are 4cyl diesel engines in my Ingersoll compressors. I also have to admit that I own a Duetz but it to is an engine in my Vermeer LM42 puller (plow). At least with mine you can't see the color to know what brand they are.
------------- HD16,917H,185,7050,8030FWA,8050FWA |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 7:42pm
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You'll be banned if you DON'T buy it! $1000 is a steal! Are you sure he really owns it? LOL! Most on here(myself included) love and appreciate many colors of tractors! Orange just happens to be my favorite.
------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 8:08pm
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All old tractors are cool. It's just that some are cooler than others. ------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 8:48pm
First off Dan Buy the John Deere sounds like a good deal,
just don't post a pic of it here!
Now then Thanks for the help there Harvey now you have got Mike back on me about the green thing again. lol
Rick C. It's time for some help for your old buddy here, Mike and Harvey are on me again, now I know how Fred must fell! lol
Don ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 9:12pm
Don I've got your back if you have mine LOL!
 ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 9:19pm
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Thanks Eldon, I was feeling all by myself out here in cyberland. lol
Don ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: denwic
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 9:20pm
| Don't worry bout what other people say or think, go with your gut feelin, if you want it get it, if you don't you'll make somebody very happy |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 9:26pm
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This one is just for Mike. lmao Don
------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 9:32pm
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Don my tank looks bigger than yours??? ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 9:34pm
Yes you have the bigger tank on yours, They made three size tanks for the 4020 the little tank was under the hood.
Don ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 9:38pm
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Guess I learned something today! Must be the "wheatland" tank LOL! I haven't filled it since I bought the tractor over 2 years ago...still shows 40%....course it only gets fired up once or twice a year..... ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 10:00pm
| Eldon, that tank looks like it takes a tall man to see over it, Darrel |
Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 10:01pm
| Unfortunately, I'd have to nickname you Judas. Going orange is going great! |
Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 10:13pm
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If the correct police catch you, yes, you can be banned, and worse! Steer clear of those rascals! ------------- "The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Mark Twain |
Posted By: Rayhowling
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 10:53pm
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A running JD 70 Diesel wide front for $1000. is cheap. I have a JD 730 Diesel pup start narrow front that I bought 10 years ago for $5000. Today some of the 730 are selling for 8 to $10000. My pup start wasn't starting and John Deere dealer wanted $435.00 for a condenser for the coil on the pup start and they have 2 coils. Found one after market for $120. It sure starts good now. |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 10:54pm
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Yes you should be banned as well as all the rest of you rainbow collectors!!!!! ORANGE Only Orange with maybe some pre persion orange colors(Only out of respect for the past).Is this an Allis site or a Heinz 57 site?If I want to see green,red,yellow,gray,or blue tractors I will go to YT. I am a tractor RACIST!!!
Just kidding, I could care less what tractor anyone else has.I know I will only own the Orange ones,thats the ones I like. ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: BrettPhillips
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 10:00pm
| Part it out! Once you have bought a crank, flywheel and clutch driver to replace the one that was destroyed by running it loose, rebuilt the pony motor and its ignition system, and then gone through the fuel system, you will have a big clumsy underpowered tractor that has lousy hydraulics, but is very thrifty on fuel. I have a 630 wide front, and find that it is very comfy for field work, but it is plain clumsy in any other situation. When I bought it, parts were still relatively reasonable, but Mother Deere has seen fit to change that... |
Posted By: jrjuday
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 10:08pm
| Just make sure you keep some A-C's around to pull-start it with! |
Posted By: Orangeknight
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2010 at 5:13pm
| Why would someone want to get a vomit colored tracter. But at least it is not a Deutz |
Posted By: Brian S(NY)
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2010 at 6:32pm
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Uh well lets see.. I actually have to admit that I own a few deeres also. ------------- God made man.Sam colt made man equal. |
Posted By: RickUP
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2010 at 7:33pm
| I just baned you from this forum !!! It's damb good thing for you I only have the power of a green tractor around here. LOL |
Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2010 at 8:20pm
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Eldon and Don, it looks like somebody whacked those little green machines on the noggin, and now they have a goose-egg! LOL! Eldon, I think yours got hit a little harder. Or maybe they're just happy to see you?.... ------------- I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me! |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2010 at 8:26pm
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Banned???
I've had a 9N Ford, an IHC H and an SC Case.
I've got a 44 Massey like Dad used to have. Thats a Massey-Harris, you know, before they became the enemy.
I used to haul hay from the baler to the barn for our neighbor with their JD 60, I wouldn't mind having one... I'd kinda like a DC4 Case the one with factory wide front or a W9 Farmall, or another SC or an Oliver 77 or 88, possibly a Minny Mo like grampa had... oh heck I really haven't seen a tractor I wouldn't like to have just to play with!
But with 2 WCs (both kinds), a WD, a WD45, 3 D17s (I, II & IV), a D19 diesel, a 200, a 7060 and an 8050, I'm an Allis guy no matter what else turns up around here! LOL
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Posted By: Unstylish
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2010 at 8:34pm
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Sounds like a deal, BUT BUT BUT, MAKE DAMN SURE the flywheel is on tight and THE CRANKSHAFT SPLINES ARENT SCREWED UP. Later JD 2cyl diesels had major problems with the flywheel running loose, and it is a $1600 fix. Just thought I'd share a little green knowledge with my fellow orange friends. Actually, I'm kind of embarassed about it. Please dont hold it against me!
------------- The problem with reading MLPANKEYS posts, is that they dont make boots that tall. |