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Swapping WD - WD-45 wide and narrow fronts

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Topic: Swapping WD - WD-45 wide and narrow fronts
Posted By: cbuttre835
Subject: Swapping WD - WD-45 wide and narrow fronts
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 5:50pm
What all swaps out, when you swap a WF for a NF on a WD / WD-45?
 
The wide front has about half a round of play in the steering.... the NF has almost zero.... the casting beteween the frame rails, which I assume is the steering box, does it swap, or just the pedestal below, vs. pitman arm?  (hate to be asking a dumb question, but I can't get the tractors side by side to look at them good - one has junk piled atop it)
 
If we have to swap in the wore WF steering box, can the internals be swapped, to keep the slop to a minimum? 
 
If that won't work, where's a place to go for steering box parts?


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C w/ 3rd gear out

D15 II factory 3 point

WD (no motor!)(parts for sale!)

WD 45 wide front



Replies:
Posted By: Mike(SEIN)
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 6:34pm
You can swap gear box and all,just lossen all the bolts on the left frame rail and pry the old one out.


Posted By: dennyh(oh)
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 6:59pm
you will also need to take the pin out of the steering u-joint. it is about a foot behind the gear box on the inside of the frame rail. also the pin is tapered so it will only drive out one way. you will probably have to loosen the front motor brace that runs from rail to rail, that will let you pry the rails open a little to make the swap easier.


Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 7:33pm
The worm gear and steering worm should interchange. you will need to swap the bolster the NF won't have holes for the front support plate. Check your U-joint they usualy are a major contributer to front end play.


Posted By: BWinMO
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 7:44pm
You will also have to take the radiator bolts out of the frame.


Posted By: cbuttre835
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 8:23pm
Ok the motors / radiators are out of both tractors, should be easy enough. 

Sounds like we _have_ to swap the bolster (is that the gearbox?), so to tighten it back up then swap the good internals out of the NF into the shot WF gearbox.

U joints are tight.  slop is coming from the box itself on the WF.

Thanks for the help....


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C w/ 3rd gear out

D15 II factory 3 point

WD (no motor!)(parts for sale!)

WD 45 wide front



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