7030 Black Cab tractor.
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Topic: 7030 Black Cab tractor.
Posted By: DarrylinWA
Subject: 7030 Black Cab tractor.
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 11:13pm
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I bought this 7030 last weekend with the some tranny issues cheap (Really Cheap !!!) Anyways the serial number is 1814 and it has the Black Pillers on the cab face. I know the 7030 and the 7050 when introduced has this. My question is was this the just first year models or what ? Cant find anywhere where they say they painted this. I am thinking of taking the cab off and putting on my other one and make this into a open station tractor.
Just looking for some insite
Thanks in adnanced, Darryl ------------- B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling. |
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Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 6:25am
| Don't have any serial number reference but mine was new in January of 74 and it had the black posts on the cab, also the warning lites were placed differently, just my memories. |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 7:33am
| On page 171 in Norm's great big book of everything, it tells that yours is made in 1973. It is the first year that they were made starting with S.N. 1001-2594. |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 7:41am
| Here are some tractors to look for. A 1981 8070 and 4W305 S.N. 1001-1003. And once you find one of each then look for a 1981 4W220 S.N. 1001-1002. |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 8:26am
| Sounds alright, Darryl. What kind of tranny issues does it have? Darrel |
Posted By: jeffnil
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 9:32am
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I know where 1981 4w220 serial number 1000 is |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 11:20am
Are you sure??? The first one should have been 1001 (or higher). ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
jeffnil wrote:Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 11:33am
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he is referring to the prototype I think. Cool story behind it!
------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 12:00pm
That would be fun to hear. I did a search, but it didn't show up. ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
Posted By: DarrylinWA
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 12:18pm
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Sounds like the Torque limiter is out. Starts up but no steering, mush clutch, and no 3 point. Supposed to have about 600 hrs on a in frame, air works, has 16 front 100 lb weights, power adjust 18.4x38 rears and long axle. Good sheet metal and glass. $1800 . Almost as good as deal as Terry ? No but cant go wrong. Going to make into a open station and has 20.8x38 Firestone radials and make into a 9 and 10,000 pulling tractor if all goes well. If tranny is worse, I will pull the motor in put into 1 one my D 21 tractor. (Towmater tricycle tractor) See what happens.
Thanks Darryl ------------- B 10 Custom. Serial # 1001 D21, First D21 built 69 #4498 and Last D 21 Built #4609. 1946 MM UTU. And 2000, 2005 Pete's. AC custom Hauling. |
Posted By: jeffnil
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 5:00pm
| 4w220 serial number 1000 was the prototype, first owner had to finish out the cab interior and paint the tractor, as it was primer green still. Engine spun a main and owner converted to 8.3 cummins, which made a very efficient and easy starting tractor. Had to pull up the floor covering once, and metal floor was marked out in 3 inch grids, which were all numbers. I asumed that this was done do design the floor mats. |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 9:39pm
| Darryl, sounds like a deal I'd like to find, cept I need it for farm use. Darrel |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2010 at 8:01am
| Early (1973)7030's and 7050's had a plastic cab roof with flashing lights built into the roof....also the cab was painted black around the windshield at this time. By mid 1974?? the roof was metal, flashing lights were moved down to the cab structure and black paint scheme was all orange. The new 7040-7060-7080 came out in Fall (Oct?) of 1974 and also had the metal roof, etc. I'm sure if the roof was plastic, the cab was black around the windshield on the 7030-50's. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 11:55am
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My 7050 has the plastic top and is a 74 but the cab is all orange. My brothers 7030 is also a 74 with plastic top and all orange cab. Are there any 7050 or 7030 tractors that had the metal top? Can you get a replacement plastic top? Mine is in poor shape but I want to keep it looking original with the lights mounted in the plastic top. If there is a replacement that is metal that would be better. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: skipwelte
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 1:26pm
| All the 7030s and 7050s Ive seen have the plastic roof, could be the last ones had the steel. All the 7040s and 7060s had the steel roof. I changed a couple of plastic roofs over to steel, had to move the lites down on the cab, otherwise the steel roof bolted right on. |
Posted By: jmm
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 4:12pm
| sounds about right to me. If I recall correctly, the clutch cost $180 about 10 years ago, (got it in Lynden) and took a day to put in. the flywheel was still good. A couple of the retaining bolts had broken |
Posted By: Kevin in WA
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 8:57pm
| Seems to me early 7040 and 60 had front flashers in the roof yet like 7030 and 50? |
Posted By: Dans 7080
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 8:59pm
| The flashers were in the roof until 76. They may have changed part way through 75. |
Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 9:17pm
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Hey Darryl,
Before you go tearing into that tractor, take a set of test guages to the hydro test port on the right rear of the diff, off the line with a "T" by the right hand 3-point ram.
We had a 7030 this summer do exactly what you discribed. No 3-point, no remotes, PTO brake wouldn't hold, PTO wouldn't engage, stearing dead or almost dead, clutch very slopply at best, no differential lock, two speed clutched sliped, etc. Basically everything hydro related was near dead or already dead.
Turns out the front variable volume pump was pulling air by a bad o-ring. On the pump there are two access plates (about a 1-3/4" dia.) held in with cir-clips, behind those plates, are the wobble plate bearings, and the pump suction side of the pump body. When it was cold, nothing worked, when it warmed up, things only kinda worked. With thick oil it was pulling tons of air, with warm oil it was pulling lots of air. Based on all of the service diagrams in the manual, it didn't make sence that all the systems would be affedcted, but I changed the o-rings, and bamb, everything worked perfectly. Brand new tractor.
Hope this turns your $1800 investment, into an $1825.00 perfect tractor.
Good Luck.
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Posted By: Wes (VA)
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 10:17pm
| Was there any reason behind the black painted cab pillars? -Wes |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 10:57pm
Styling. It was supposed to make it look like more glass. ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |