To Prime or Not To Prime?
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Topic: To Prime or Not To Prime?
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Subject: To Prime or Not To Prime?
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 5:32pm
I remade a hopper for a potato planter out of stainless. I am getting ready to paint and was wondering if I need to prime it first. What do you recommend?
------------- Thanks & God Bless
Dennis
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Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 5:37pm
A major thing when painting is paint adhesion. Besides having the metal clean (especially of any oil), a good primer is a big help.
------------- Mark
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Posted By: panelbeater
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 5:38pm
it needs to be primed, i would use a self etching primer.
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Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 5:54pm
Stainless does not need any rust protection. You could leave it as is.
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Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 6:09pm
I'd have to agree with Stan, when you said stainless the first thing I thought was why paint it?
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Posted By: Rayhowling
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 8:51pm
Some metal parts and some equipment I have welded and built, I take a torch and heat the metal up and you would be surprised how mush moisture is in metal. I have heated 1/4 to 1/2 inch metal flat steel and the water will bead and run off of the steel even if it has been sitting in the sunshine for a couple of days. The paint sticks to the metal and it does not rust near as quickly when heated before painting.
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 8:56pm
I don't think paint (or primer for that matter) sticks to stainless all that well anyway. I would leave it as is.
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 10:42pm
If you really want paint to stick to your stainless, I'd sand blast it so it has a satin finish. Roughing it up gives the paint something to hang on to.
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Posted By: Toscani SD
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 7:04am
if u dont rough it up a little and prime,it will fall off period.
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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 7:19am
Or buff until she shines like chrome.
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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 8:57am
Rayhowling wrote:
Some metal parts and some equipment I have welded and built, I take a torch and heat the metal up and you would be surprised how mush moisture is in metal. I have heated 1/4 to 1/2 inch metal flat steel and the water will bead and run off of the steel even if it has been sitting in the sunshine for a couple of days. The paint sticks to the metal and it does not rust near as quickly when heated before painting.
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That moisture you are seeing may not be coming from the steel but from your torch, most gases contain moisture, especially natural gas and LP gas.
Dusty
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Posted By: BrettPhillips
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 9:22am
Toscani's got it right. If you must paint it, sandblast and then use an adhesion promoting primer (like XIM's Flash Bond http://www.ximbonder.com/products_detail.asp?id=63 - http://www.ximbonder.com/products_detail.asp?id=63 ) I had an awful time getting paint to stick to a stainless project at my day job, and this was the only thing that worked in the end.
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Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 9:45pm
We used to use the xim flash bond for hard to hold areas, works like a charm. Just not as cheap as other stuff.
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