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To Prime or Not To Prime?

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Topic: To Prime or Not To Prime?
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Subject: To Prime or Not To Prime?
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 5:32pm
 I remade a hopper for a potato planter out of stainless. I am getting ready to paint and was wondering if I need to prime it first. What do you recommend?

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Thanks & God Bless

Dennis



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Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 5:37pm
A major thing when painting is paint adhesion.  Besides having the metal clean (especially of any oil), a good primer is a big help.

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Posted By: panelbeater
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 5:38pm
it needs to be primed, i would use a self etching primer.

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Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 5:54pm
Stainless does not need any rust protection. You could leave it as is.


Posted By: MNLonnie
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 6:09pm
I'd have to agree with Stan, when you said stainless the first thing I thought was why paint it?

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Posted By: Rayhowling
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 8:51pm
Some metal parts and some equipment I have welded and built, I take a torch and heat the metal up and you would be surprised how mush moisture is in metal. I have heated 1/4 to 1/2 inch metal flat steel and the water will bead and run off of the steel even if it has been sitting in the sunshine for a couple of days. The paint sticks to the metal and it does not rust near as quickly when heated before painting.


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 8:56pm
I don't think paint (or primer for that matter) sticks to stainless all that well anyway.  I would leave it as is.

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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2010 at 10:42pm
If you really want paint to stick to your stainless, I'd sand blast it so it has a satin finish. Roughing it up gives the paint something to hang on to.

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Posted By: Toscani SD
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 7:04am
if u dont rough it up a little and prime,it will fall off period.


Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 7:19am
Or buff until she shines like chrome.


Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 8:57am
Originally posted by Rayhowling Rayhowling wrote:

Some metal parts and some equipment I have welded and built, I take a torch and heat the metal up and you would be surprised how mush moisture is in metal. I have heated 1/4 to 1/2 inch metal flat steel and the water will bead and run off of the steel even if it has been sitting in the sunshine for a couple of days. The paint sticks to the metal and it does not rust near as quickly when heated before painting.

That moisture you are seeing may not be coming from the steel but from your torch, most gases contain moisture, especially natural gas and LP gas.

Dusty


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Posted By: BrettPhillips
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 9:22am
Toscani's got it right.  If you must paint it, sandblast and then use an adhesion promoting primer (like XIM's Flash Bond http://www.ximbonder.com/products_detail.asp?id=63 - http://www.ximbonder.com/products_detail.asp?id=63 )  I had an awful time getting paint to stick to a stainless project at my day job, and this was the only thing that worked in the end.


Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2010 at 9:45pm
We used to use the xim flash bond for hard to hold areas, works like a charm. Just not as cheap as other stuff.



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