anybody pull in stock class?
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Topic: anybody pull in stock class?
Posted By: JM
Subject: anybody pull in stock class?
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 10:06pm
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Do any of you guys pull in a stock class, some clubs call it Division 1? How does the orange fair, better in a light class or heavy? Thanks,JM
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Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 10:23pm
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STOCK are you KIDDING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you say STOCK !!!!!!!!!!! are you still talking about tractor pulling . LOL
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Posted By: AndrewGubbels
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 10:29pm
Yes my dad and I pull in the stock div 1 class. It is a very fun class to pull in. The drawbar rules are at 16" and you can only use factory weights and tire sizes. We pull a wd. It has done very well. It actually takes about all the power it has most hooks. We run in the 4000 and 4500 pound classes. Div 2 is alot of fun also. You can run more tire sizes. You also get 10 percent over on rpm. There are alot of hooks in each class also!
Andrew
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Andrew Gubbels
Gubbels Restoration
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Posted By: Darrell G (MN)
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 10:31pm
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There are two kinds of stock pullers Fred, Cheaters and Losers lol
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Posted By: smuggler
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 6:44am
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You hit the nail on the head there Darrell lol
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 7:15am
I used to pull with my D17 and took home a lot of trophies in the 6,500# and 7,500# classes. My 17 is absolutely bone stock. It was dynoed at one pull and everything about it is stock. I pulled in division 2 cause my club didn't field a division 1 but division 2 just allowed for any kind of weights and one size over for tires. Although for me one size over would have been 18.4x28 they wouldn't allow me to run those. The IH and JD tractors that had 15.5x38 could run 16.9x38 even though the true next size up is 14.9x38. The difference between a 15.5x38 and 16.9x38 is huge. One of the many frustrations you run into with pulling. Although most are good people the sport draws cheats and liars and that ain't for me.
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Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 8:05am
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Absolutely positivly. One of the most inexpensive and simple ways to have fun at at a tractor pull is pulling "Out of the Field" farm stock. Orange does pretty well. Most stock pullers are antiques. They along with their "retired from farming" tractors.
It's fun to watch a bunch of little red, green, grey, yellow and orange antique tractor drivers trying to change the direction of the sled. It just won't happen guys. I just wish there was more competition in the light weight farm stock classes.
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 8:10am
I pull a 210 in "farm stock". not much cheating on my tractor, but I don't dominate either, but I do run right with red and green! A cranked up fuel system done by me, as well as a 3LM charger. It is on youtube, search me dragined. My buddy also pulls same class with a 220, also on videos. His tractor won more this past season then ever before, so I guess you can say it does dominate! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7HN_nBrM6Y
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted By: Allis Fields
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 8:21am
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I've done well in a 4000 - 5000 class with a stock tractor.
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Posted By: JM
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 10:41am
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My biggest concern is tires, the WC came with a nice set of 12.4-28 firestone champion ground grips. They of coarse are old, but have almost no wear on them. Is there any way thru balance and hitch settings I can compete with such small tires? I have seen some with 14.9s do good, will my pizza cutters ever be able to keep up? I am having a hard time finding used tires, new ones too $$$. If I pull in div. 1, I might load the tires with calcium for cheap wt. and run 4000 class. We can only run wheels wts, I have none, and no suitcase. What do you think? JM
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Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 12:09pm
Is that WC black smoking? Uh, no thats just it getting too much fuel. Well, is that a turbo I here? Again no, that's just a hole in the side of the block. LOL
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1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500
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Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 1:09pm
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I pulled in the division one for years. At first it was all but one tractor now and then that had made HP changes above just the standard over bore. that was allowed as most farmers would put in over bore its when an overhaul was needed. the rest of the tractor had to be stock to the eye. As more people added pistons above overbore and started to use stroked crankshafts to keep up with the (cheaters) stretching unseen things from factory stock they started to use the 3 MPH to keep the class more even for those that had not stretched the rules in unseen places. My Oliver 77 was and still is stock as the rules were then and I won more than I lost in division one under the 3 MPH rule.
I won more with my C before I built the stroked engine under the division rules. That is when you had to keep the RPM's below 2000.
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 2:42pm
I pull my B in the 2500 lb class, only in the last year and have a whopping 4 pulls under my belt :)
It is fun for sure but some of the stock tractors make crazy power.
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
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Posted By: cwhit
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 4:02pm
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Tractor pulling is a cheap sport. WINNING takes money.
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Posted By: MikesWilsons
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2010 at 1:07am
It's a great ideas. Thanks for the information.
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http://www.pennystockville.com/ - Penny Stocks
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Posted By: LionelinKY
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2010 at 7:53pm
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Dad's tractors are still just the way they were set up when we were farming with them. I'll admit that they aren't factory original but all upgrades are AC. The WD45 is filled with D17 internals, rolls on 16.9X28 rears, and dynoed at 56 pto hp when rebuilt the last time back in the 1970s. I weighed it once for pulling and it scaled in at 6200 lbs so it pulls 6500 lb stock class at the local show. The 190XT breathes better with precleaner and larger turbo plus turned up fuel pump dynoed at 115 pto hp when first set up this way also back during the 1970s. The same scale put her at just shy of 13000 lbs so it pulls 13500 stock class when I am able to make the show. Both of the old girls will spin out every time long before any significant rpm drop occurs. I even have a ribbon from one year with the XT when she placed 3rd out of 4 outpulling an IH 1066 Turbo which looked stock except for the tranny wrap but sure did not sound stock.
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