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CA Pickup Plow "Special Bolt" Meaning?

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Topic: CA Pickup Plow "Special Bolt" Meaning?
Posted By: dfwallis
Subject: CA Pickup Plow "Special Bolt" Meaning?
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 10:25am
What does the "special" refer to relative to the bolts used for the pickup plow?  Those I checked were fine thread.  Were these hardened beyond 4140?

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1952 CA13092



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Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 4:18pm
sometimes allis used a plow bolt with a head shape that was unique to them. you can't find them anymore but with a welder and a die grinder you can get close enough


Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 4:45pm
Originally posted by dr p dr p wrote:

sometimes allis used a plow bolt with a head shape that was unique to them. you can't find them anymore but with a welder and a die grinder you can get close enough

I only found 1 like that.  I found a "thumb screw" head bolt the right thread size and ground it to match.  The target bolt was basically a 3/4" round head with two opposite side flats.  I ground it to fit the slot in the plowshare and the bracket it mounts to.  Most of the other "special" bolts look like standard hex head bolts.  The only thing special about the ones I checked were that they were fine thread.  But that doesn't seem like a reason to use the term "special".


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1952 CA13092


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 5:09pm
I believe the bolts you’re talking about are the frame bolts right. 
They were some type of a shear bolt. 


Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 5:58pm
Originally posted by Mikez Mikez wrote:

I believe the bolts you’re talking about are the frame bolts right. 
They were some type of a shear bolt. 

Two bolts below were 3/4 hex head bolts both fine threaded and labeled "special".  Would those be "shear" bolts?  Or would they be higher strength bolts?  The second one is the upper bolt of the U bracket.  I used grade 8.  I don't think it matters much at this point, was just curious.
 
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1952 CA13092


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 6:26pm
The original part numbers for those were 
321893 then the numerical book says use 916290 which are grade 5. 3/4” x 3-1/2”
321896 numerical book says to use 916292 which are grade 5. 3/4” x 4-1/4”


Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 6:34pm
Originally posted by Mikez Mikez wrote:

The original part numbers for those were 
321893 then the numerical book says use 916290 which are grade 5. 3/4” x 3-1/2”
321896 numerical book says to use 916292 which are grade 5. 3/4” x 4-1/4”

Hmm, grade 5 is roughly equivalent to 4140 which most everything else was, I thought.

Interesting comparison:

https://www.makeitfrom.com/compare/Annealed-4140-Cr-Mo-Steel/ASTM-A387-Grade-5-S50200-5Cr-0.5Mo-Steel" rel="nofollow - Link


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1952 CA13092


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2026 at 6:41am
Could it be a shoulder bolt? I've seen that in manuals too. Had that sort of stuff apart but been a long time ago and can't remember.


Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2026 at 10:43am
Originally posted by IBWD MIke IBWD MIke wrote:

Could it be a shoulder bolt? I've seen that in manuals too. Had that sort of stuff apart but been a long time ago and can't remember.

The two bolts referenced were normal hex bolts (I'm reasonably sure the bolts I removed were original), only they were fine thread.  


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1952 CA13092


Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2026 at 11:08am
I think my conclusion is that "special" just means any characteristic that is different from a standard hex head coarse thread (4140?) bolt.

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1952 CA13092


Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2026 at 2:20pm
In general "special" could mean any deviation from whatever hardware standard (i.e. ISO etc. documentation) "typical" bolts come from. Could be as simple as the threads being a different pitch, a different hex size for the head, a non-standard length of threads on the shaft, a specified length of chamfer on the end leading to the threads, etc. etc. or something really obvious like a weird shape, totally different head type, or different material.

All "special" really tells you is that technically there is at minimum one small thing that doesn't line with the standard. Sometimes you can get away with an off-the-shelf bolt built per whatever standard, and sometimes you can't, but the manufacturer (AC in this case) typically had some reason for choosing that special bolt in the first place. It could just be something that made it easier to assemble or it could be something that kept it from failing in the field.


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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45



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