1958 HD-5G into the fold:
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Topic: 1958 HD-5G into the fold:
Posted By: Codger
Subject: 1958 HD-5G into the fold:
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2025 at 4:49pm
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Widow is downsizing on retained possessions. I've known the tractor which is complete for a lot of years. However, it's not been ran in about six years. Engine is not frozen and I don't know about the steering clutches, but u/c appears to be in fair condition. It also has the bolt on grouser segments on top of the street pads. Story is the tractor was used to dig the basement to the house addition, and then put into the barn. There it remained not coming out till a couple of weeks ago to convert the parking space to a horse stall. I'll haul it home after the first of the year when insurances go into effect for my tractor and trailer. ------------- That's All Folks! |
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Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2025 at 8:12pm
Sweet!  |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2025 at 11:08pm
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Last of the HD5 machines was 1955 , If you find the Serial # on dash plate or on the rear casting it can confirm the year built Lot of small changes over years of production , improvements to loader frame are some along with the 2 speed reverse transmission . With the loader pads without single grouser I dug many basements, put in drives, loaded many trucks and leveled many yards . Bought mine in 1972 and still have it , a 1955 HD5G - had 3 others 5G machines I sold and 1 HD5B from 1948 to 1955 machines ------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2025 at 9:43pm
| Ahhhh the sound of that 2-71 Detroit..... |
Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 10:19am
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I'll be over there later today and look for a data plate. She thought it was a 1958 build and seemed pretty certain, but obviously there could be disparity. ------------- That's All Folks! |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 11:16am
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Age of build can make some differences but overall interchange of any needed parts stays the same . Track , undercarriage , even full rear housing and components were used on the HD6 machines . Loader differed as did engine , but then the HD6 had updates also so from early first machines to last produced a lot of changes , the HD5 over the years just had small ones . On the HD5G the big changes were in 2 speed reverse , 4 speed rather than 5speed , the loader frame front cross member going from box tube to round tube with welded brackets reinforcing round tube . pin length in upper fitment to loader frame ------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 2:42pm
   All levers and handles operate smoothly with even spring tension behind them. She said it pulled very easy with the 4020 Deere tractor. I didn't sit in it so don't know about the transmission shifting but the hand clutch feels as it should. Drizzling out when the photos were taken and my phone shuts down on "humidity" constantly if out of the holder in this cool weather very long. I'm told the machine ran/operated well but was loud in a push...... ------------- That's All Folks! |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 3:33pm
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Some rather odd looking pads on the tracks, first time I've ever seen that. Any story behind it?
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 7:12pm
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I've seen those pads in the past but been a lot of years ago. Few more photos:    Bucket cutting edge is broken out badly but I didn't snap a photo of it. ------------- That's All Folks! |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 10:17pm
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The Allis Chalmers HD5G with serial number 21073 was likely manufactured in 1954. The HD5 line was produced from 1946 to 1955, with a total of over 29,000 units built. ------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 10:21pm
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This is the counterweights on my HD5G - something I notice you are missing . Careful when using bucket as overloading machine without some counterweight will overload front idler axle and wheel bearings - Had 3 front idlers all with bent axles from machines I worked on and sold 
------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 10:29pm
HD5G 26784 1955 I bought it in 1972 and still have it  ------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2025 at 4:38am
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Thanks Coke. No idea to any of this myself. Looks like it's been a long time, (if ever) this machine had counterweights installed. Those on your machine appear to be cast iron/steel composition. If the machine proves serviceable when it's back at the shop, I'll give it a good pressure washing and remove the tracks to evaluate u/c further, and fully. It looks fair setting there with plenty of adjustment left, and there was no mention of any track walking off, but I'd like to evaluate the front idlers, bearings, etc. before pressing it into any kind of service as it will be kept several miles distant from the shop. I did snap this but neglected to post earlier. No idea if it reveals anything to the discerning eye or not: 
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