weight of model D grader?
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Topic: weight of model D grader?
Posted By: Wes (VA)
Subject: weight of model D grader?
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 10:56pm
| Does anybody know off hand the weight of a D grader gas with no cab?? Learned of one that went to junk today and may buy it back if it ain't too late. -Wes |
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Posted By: LoggerLee
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 11:31pm
| 8500-10,000 is what I come up with,I think 8500# is what I'd pay in scrap if that's what you're trying to find out. |
Posted By: Wes (VA)
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2010 at 12:31am
| Sure is...thanks Lee |
Posted By: Ages Cat
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2010 at 4:00pm
| Square frame gas is 8800#, diesel is 9350#. Older round frame is listed as the same weight. Information taken from the respective Allis brochures. |
Posted By: LoggerLee
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2010 at 4:26pm
| I knew someone who actually knew what the weight was would chime in,sometimes ya just gotta prime the net :) |
Posted By: Wes (VA)
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2010 at 1:12pm
| I didn't get to it in time... I knew the guy that hauled it down there too and he said it needed a manifold on the engine. He had it runnin' though. And he knows I like Allis stuff! kinda ticks me off! |
Posted By: LoggerLee
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2010 at 4:04pm
| Man Wes,I'm sorry to hear that bro,one of those graders are just a handy size IMO :( |
Posted By: bdallman
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2014 at 9:09am
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What is the Length and Width of the Model D Grader? Thanks Brett ------------- 1954 CA, 1952 WD with Freeman Loader,1955 WD45, 1963 D19 Gas, 1984 620H, 1980’s AC Forklift, 66 All Crop Harvester, White Top Roto Baler, Misc S.C. Equip and AC Collectibles. |
Posted By: Ages Cat
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2014 at 3:02pm
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Length 18'4", width 6' 1 3/4". ------------- Curt Anderson HD3, HD5B, HD6E, HD6AG,HD6B dozer, I-400, 615, 616,(2) 620, 720, ACP25 lift truck, 1956 D Special Grader, AC 540 loader, AC 655 crawler loader, AC #84 plow, Simplicity lawn tractors. |
Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2014 at 3:13pm
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OAL about 20', width just over 6' for the grader to the outside of the wheels. A bit more depending on mouldboard length even when fully rotated. Possibly closer to 8' if it has a 12' mouldboard. Height with a cab over 7.5'. Too bad about the scrap machine as they may be the only source for some parts. ------------- Jack of all trades, master of none |
Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 9:30am
This may help. I once moved my 'D' ( gasser - 1967 ) with a 'tilt & go' truck. You will need a long bed as there is generally a winch, or other apparatus, taking up some bed length.[ 
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 6:17pm
| You can move it with an 18' rollback. Just put it on back end first, and set the blade down against the bed, lifting and dangling the front wheels... |
Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2014 at 9:24am
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Hi. Yes you can 'dangle' the front wheels/axle behind the truck tail, but that sure would not be very safe , or legal. Would it? The literature for a round frame ( 1959 model ) also shows the same measurements. It is my understanding that these graders may have been shipped with the rear tires 'loaded'. Ross. 
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2014 at 5:38pm
| Depends on how far you are trucking it, and if you have to go by any chicken coops, on the way, I suppose... |
Posted By: Ages Cat
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2014 at 10:21pm
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We just moved one from east of Des Moines to Minneapolis on a 24 foot Kaufman tilt deck trailer. We loaded it forward on to the trailer. Balance was great. Pulled it with an F350- no problem at all. It was a 1956 D special with 12 foot blade and scarifier-no cab, Probably 9000#. ------------- Curt Anderson HD3, HD5B, HD6E, HD6AG,HD6B dozer, I-400, 615, 616,(2) 620, 720, ACP25 lift truck, 1956 D Special Grader, AC 540 loader, AC 655 crawler loader, AC #84 plow, Simplicity lawn tractors. |
Posted By: Steve Bright
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2014 at 12:36pm
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Just got a call from a freind of mine that has an Allis grader he wants to sell me, It looks like the D in the picture but this one is orange and has a round tube to the front wheels, What would this be? It has a 4 cylinder gas engine, He wants me to have it to put with my tractor collection, I don't even know what to offer. It is in great condition but has not ran for 4 to 5 years, has been inside though. This is a one owner grader. Thanks for any input. |
Posted By: Ages Cat
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2014 at 2:03pm
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The serial number would answer your questions. Year, engine model, etc. ------------- Curt Anderson HD3, HD5B, HD6E, HD6AG,HD6B dozer, I-400, 615, 616,(2) 620, 720, ACP25 lift truck, 1956 D Special Grader, AC 540 loader, AC 655 crawler loader, AC #84 plow, Simplicity lawn tractors. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2014 at 6:17pm
If it means anything, I paid $ 5900, at auction, for my DD (diesel, 230 Buda), top of the market, a couple 6-8 years ago. $100 bucks more, and somebody else would've owned it...
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Steve Bright wrote:Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2014 at 6:48pm
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Some of the earlier ones were orange and up until 1964 they were built with the tube type frame. Mine is a 1959 and it is orange and some of that vintage were yellow as well. Most of the early Allis construction equipment was orange. ------------- Jack of all trades, master of none |
Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2014 at 12:23pm
Hi. I hope that this article may help. Ross.
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2014 at 8:14pm
| Yeah, I like the leaning front wheels on my DD, when an arshluch in a corvette tries to pass you, you lean the tires left at the top, and rip the trim off of his passenger door... |
Posted By: Steve Bright
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2014 at 4:13pm
| OK guys, checked out the D grader today, It is complete, has not ran in 2 or 3 years, tires look like new. small dent in the grill around the radiator. yellow in color. Serial number D-1305. What year and is it worth $2,000 |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2014 at 5:41pm
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Gas, 1951 Diesel, 1956 Definitely worth $2000
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Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2014 at 2:18pm
| Yes. it appears to be a 1951. Ross, |
Posted By: W Speedy
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2022 at 4:18pm
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Dave, Would you know what year D-6207 would be? Maybe a 62? |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2022 at 6:19pm
Very late '63 6243 and up, '64  ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: W Speedy
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2022 at 7:33pm
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thanks Dave. Got it running. Front is pretty wobbly. Pulled the starter and generator for service. 2nd &3rd are frozen. I’ll pull the cover when it warms up and see what’s up. ------------- 45’ CJ2A, 46’ CJ2A, 46’ CJ2A, 48 CJ3A, 4?’ Frazer, 40’ WC, 46’ W, 63’ D, 18’ 3039R |
Posted By: W Speedy
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2022 at 9:34pm
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Dave, Would you know the torque specification for the D grader axle nut? Thanks, Bill ------------- 45’ CJ2A, 46’ CJ2A, 46’ CJ2A, 48 CJ3A, 4?’ Frazer, 40’ WC, 46’ W, 63’ D, 18’ 3039R |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2022 at 8:15am
I only have the parts manual, if I'm looking at the right nut, it appears to be a 5/8" NC nut, possibly a castle nut with a retaining wire/cotter pin. According to standard torque charts, 73 ft-lbs should be sufficient for grade 2. If the service manual says more, I would defer to that value. if anyone has the shop manual handy, feel free to chime in! ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |