Surplus Army Tanks
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Topic: Surplus Army Tanks
Posted By: Bee
Subject: Surplus Army Tanks
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 6:26am
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Anyone own one? Got any pics? I met a family in Magog, Canada that used an old Sherman for farming. Did Allis make any war vehicles? ------------- Bob, North Carolina 1949 B |
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 8:24am
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Bob, If you ever get up this way you should check out this collection http://www.vmmv.org/ - http://www.vmmv.org/ ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: RickM(MO)
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 8:45am
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AC built at least two sizes of tracked vehicles for towing heavy artillery. Dad was in artillery in WWII and talked about these. There is a picture of a restored M4 vehicle on back of latest issue of Old Allis News. They also built a tracked vehicle with several recoiless rifles mounted on top for the Marines during Viet Nam. A picture of one of these in "The Allis Chalmers Story" by C. H. Wendell. ------------- Missouri Allis Chalmers Club Member; 1954 WD45 (NF), 611LTD & 811GT Lawn Tractors |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 11:08am
Here are a couple links to AC at war .
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60812FC3B5C13738DDDAF0994DE405B858DF1D3 - http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60812FC3B5C13738DDDAF0994DE405B858DF1D3
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/turningpoints/tp-038/?action=more_essay - http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/turningpoints/tp-038/?action=more_essay
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/mcb53aa/worldwariiphotos.htm - http://www.angelfire.com/pa/mcb53aa/worldwariiphotos.htm ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Craig/insoh
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 10:39am
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For those of you that might be interested there are 2 models of the m4 high speed tractor as plastic model kits in 1/35 scale 1 for transporting a 90 mm gun, and 1 for transporting 155mm/and or 8" howitzers available from hobby boss mfg.
Also the m50a1 ontos in 1/35 scale is now available from academy plastic model co. All models are currently on ebay! I currently have the m4 versions to put together then I will be putting together an "ONTOS". CRAIG |
Posted By: Craig/insoh
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 11:06am
| Just looked on ebay there is a NOS carb,fuel pump, pair of gears, and starter for g150 waukesha engine for a "M4 HIGH SPEED TRACTOR" |
Posted By: Craig/insoh
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 11:53am
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Correction for above post g150 is military equipment category!
m4 had 145gz Wakesha 6 cylinder gas engine 210hp. weight 31,500lb AC also made M6 hst with 2 145gz engines 190hp each. weight 38 ton |
Posted By: JimWenigOH
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 1:12pm
| My Grandpa as well as several other local farmers bought surplus tanks after WWII and used them to farm with. These were the M22 Locust Airbourne Tanks. They had a Lycoming 6 cylinder, radial, air-cooled aircraft engine. Grandpa, my Dad and his brothers installed an additional transmission to gear it down some. I have an old photo somewhere of theirs. Twenty years ago I found and bought one still sitting in a barnyard 18 miles from me. I sold it some years later to a man in KY who took the inop Lycoming out and installed a Buick V6. My understanding was that a scrap company in Findlay, OH bought the tanks from the Lima Tank Plant in Lima, OH after the war, demilled them to include turret removal and then were able to resell them. Grandpa ended up selling his after some time and bought a Cletrac. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 2:49pm
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we built a BUNCH of HD 16s in the Springfield Illinois plant in the late 60s and shipped them to Viet Nam. I think they said 3-4 per day off the line. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 7:42pm
| I was riding around the backroads of CT with my late FIL back in the late 60s and we spotted a fairly small tank with the barrel cut off being used to skid logs. No one was around but we stopped and looked her over. Had two flathead Caddy engines in it. My FIL was real great about taking pics (he had a nice 35MM) but wouldn't you know it; he didn't have his camera with him that day. I recognized the engines right away as my Dad had parted out a '46 Caddy to use the engine on his sawmill. |
Posted By: Joe(OH)
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 8:08pm
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My grandfather bought a M22 brand new off of the Lima tank plant after World War Two. He used it to farm with, but quit using it cause he said it took too much gas. I know theres a house in a local town that he moved into town with the tank. The story gos that people lined the road to watch the tank pull the house. When my grandpa and his brother, who was riding with him, got to the bridge right before the town my grandpa looked at his brother and asked him "You measured it, right?" and my grandpas brother said "no, I though you did." The house just fit across the bridge by about an inch on each side. Some time later the tank was sold to a salvage yard to be used to crush cars. If anyone knows of one I sure would like to look at one. I have some pictures around, I can try to get them online if anyone is interested. Joe ------------- Life is simpler when you plow around the stump. |
Posted By: clovis
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 10:37pm
| Very interesting thread. I love learning new stuff! |
Posted By: pineyjd
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 4:01am
| When I lived in Vernon Calif in 62, a demo company used a tank to demolish house's,they woul drive right thru the small ranch houses |
Posted By: firebrick43
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 10:50am
| cousins finance' father owns an M113, military hummer, 5 ton along with a M2 and M1918. Sure hope the wedding is down there in MO by his house so I can actually get a look at his goodies, at least the m113. I have already spent to much time around the other things in my all expense paid free vacation to Kuwait/Iraq in 2003 |
Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 2:00pm
| In the late 60's early 70's the local phone company switched to underground cable.The company that installed it used M4 and M5 Allis Chalmers high speed tractors to pull the cable plow. |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 2:18pm
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I spent some time in a 113, kind of fun to cruse the training area with. I believe it had a 318 or 383 Chrysler in it. Newer ones had DD.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2010 at 2:18pm
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1942 War Department Manual TM 9-782 describes a B allis as "Tractor, Light, Wheeled Industrial Type". Definitly not a IB.
Manual can be downloaded on the internet.
A friend of mine in Austin Texas is in the process of cloneing one to pull his restored bomb wagon.
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