190XT engine
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Topic: 190XT engine
Posted By: TedN
Subject: 190XT engine
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2025 at 9:59pm
I finally figured out how to post pictures, and yesterday was reminded of one of the things I wanted to find out. I bought my 190XT at auction 35 years ago (sight unseen, a friend went for me as I didn't have the time) and it has been relatively problem free ever since. It has an obviously replaced engine, and when I asked the local Allis dealer about it they said it was probably from an MH Gleaner - this was based on my description of the injector pump and them not seeing it. So for many years I had an MH engine in my 190XT, replaced the water pump with an MH water pump, no problem. Then I found this forum, and was reading a thread one day where DrAllis stated that combine engines don't have hydraulic pumps. Mine does, and it looks like it belongs there. One thing I really like about it since I mostly run a baler is the engine speed, at full throttle it turns the PTO at 540 so I can run it half asleep and not have to worry about getting the throttle set right. Anyway, the suggestion yesterday was that it might be a loader engine.    ------------- 190XTD seriesIII, 190XTD seriesI, maroon belly 7000, 190XTD series??? project(or maybe parts) |
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2025 at 10:37pm
| A Gleaner combine engine was never yellow. Construction equipment was yellow. The hydraulic pump drive and timing cover mounting area look strange to me, so that too could be construction. The engine oil cooler and dual oil filters are early 1970's. Water pump is left hand intake. Alternator is right hand instead of left side like a tractor would be. The injection pump is a Simms brand similar to a 1972-73 model "L" Gleaner combine. So, I'd guess it came from an early 70's wheel loader. It is clearly a Mark 2 engine which I think was 130 HP @ 2400 RPM. |
Posted By: TedN
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2025 at 11:10pm
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Not a lot of Allis or Gleaner in my area, didn't have much for dealers locally. In the Columbia Basin Irrigation Project (Grand Coulee Dam) the only dealer that I know of that was Allis was Smith Tractor in Pasco. I would go to Walter Implement in Odessa, but they were more geared toward the articulates, and by the time I started Allis had changed hands. Most of what I know about them comes from a few conversations with the mechanics at Walter and from reading I&T manuals until I stumbled on this forum. I really do appreciate the knowledge that is shared. Ted ------------- 190XTD seriesIII, 190XTD seriesI, maroon belly 7000, 190XTD series??? project(or maybe parts) |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2025 at 7:19am
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Interesting Who ever put that in there must have done a decent job if you’ve gone 35 years of use.
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2025 at 8:26am
| Loader engine for sure. That's a dual oil cooler. One for engine one for transmission. The air compressor mounts where your hyd pump is. Just like my 78 545B. |
Posted By: TedN
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2025 at 9:54am
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It is nice knowing a little better what it is. I think I paid $1200 for it, so it definitely doesn't owe me anything. I bought a New Holland 580 new in 1995 and have replaced the floor in it at least twice all with this tractor running it. Have a CaseIH 551sb now and it gets pulled by this tractor a lot too. Now that I have a 7000 the oil filters on this one make sense. Downside to buying at auction is I don't have the backstory on how and why the engine transplant happened, but the radiator has clues as to the why. It is nice finding a group that knows about most everything Allis, at least the farm and industrial equipment. Ted  ------------- 190XTD seriesIII, 190XTD seriesI, maroon belly 7000, 190XTD series??? project(or maybe parts) |
Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2025 at 10:44am
 
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Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2025 at 11:12am
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Thick front plate = industrial loader application. As Doc stated - not a combine engine. ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2025 at 12:12pm
| Uses same oil filters as 8000's with 426 engines |