WD45 rear wheels won't turn
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Topic: WD45 rear wheels won't turn
Posted By: Bubba1957
Subject: WD45 rear wheels won't turn
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 10:14am
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First time working on WD45 got engine running have rear wheels cribbed up off the ground.Start motor in neutral runs fine put in gear let out on clutch bogs motor down rear wheels will not spin in neutral if engage pro let out on clutch pro spins. released brakes both sides completely out rear wheels still locked. oil in trans and rear axle have not looked at final drives tractor in woods trying to get to roll into garage would be a lot better. Any advice or suggestions wood be greatly appreciated. |
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Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 10:32am
| Brake shoes seized on drums? |
Posted By: Bubba1957
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 10:37am
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I have them completely backed off but they were pretty nasty got them all cleaned up they do move when the brake pedals are pushed. The rear wheel hit hard when you move them a little bit. I posted a picture under WD45 right before this post of a lever that I don't know what it controls. The only problem I have with the shift lever is that it does not act like it wants to go in first gear but all other gears seem fine
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 10:52am
| Eng off. Both rear wheels off the ground. Transmission in any gear. You should be able to turn one rear wheel and the other rear wheel should turn the opposite way. This would confirm the brakes aren't the problem. So, if both rear wheels will turn and it kills the engine when you try and move it, the rear end has been run out of oil and the pinion bearings are welded together. There is a square headed fill plug under/behind the foot clutch pedal. Oil should be right there not down or empty. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 11:02am
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trans full of water...bearing locked up ?? ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Bubba1957
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 11:22am
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Rear wheels will NOT turn when jacked up and in neutral it has some oil in rearend not sure if full will have to take rear access pan off and look at pinion Gear? |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 12:27pm
| If you cannot turn either rear wheel either direction, while jacked up, that has to be a brake issue. Final drives are sealed and I cannot imagine anything wrong with them. |
Posted By: Bubba1957
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 1:07pm
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Thank you I will look harder at the brakes And see what I can come up with will the brakes come clear out of the top inspection plate if I can get them loose |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 3:50pm
What if the transmission is stuck in two gears at the same time? ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
DrAllis wrote:Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 5:18pm
| With both rear wheels off the ground, even if the tranny was stuck in two gears and cannot turn, one wheel would rotate forward while the other would rotate backwards via the differential. He says neither wheel will turn, which has to be brakes. |
Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 5:25pm
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Even if the transmission is stuck in 2 gears if you jack up both rear tires and turn one the other should turn backward as long as brakes or something else doesnt have it locked up ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 5:26pm
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Me and the good Dr must hav been typing at the same time ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2025 at 6:59pm
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Could it possibly be a seized pinion bearing? One of my WF's (my grandfather's) had set for many years. Neither rear wheel would turn. When I got it apart the pinion bearing was rusted and froze solid. It was a lot of work!
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Posted By: ekjdm14
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2025 at 6:23am
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Had one rear brake stuck on my B when I first got it, despite the brake bands being completely rotted off all their pins. Could see the drum "twitch" slightly when rocking the wheel back & forth but it was locked solid. If the WD is anything like the B, with a "mouse door" in the brake housing, crud can build up in the space below the drum/band assembly and lock things up pretty well. I got probably a pound of silt/rust/brake dust out of each side.
------------- Stuck Farmer |
Posted By: Bubba1957
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2025 at 9:05am
| Yes brake compartment was full of crud two mice looking up at me spent 2 hours with long grip tool and screwdrivers cleaning it out and pouring the Blaster to it got brakes backed off but had to stop for a while ordered brake pin puller so will see if I can get the shoes out and see if that frees up the rear end will let you know .I very much appreciate the import and help very glad I found this forum THANK YOU AGAIN |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2025 at 9:33am
I dropped a couple of mothballs in the bottom and in the toolbox. No more mice and snakes. Lasts quite a while. ------------- 1952 CA13092 |
Posted By: Bubba1957
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2025 at 4:32pm
| I had poured the blaster to brake shoes and back them clear off tapped with hammer put bar in and pulled decided to start tractor and put in gear and worked the clutch and it popped loose and the wheels are turning while it was jacked up off ground shut tractor off put in gear and turned one wheel and the other wheel turned the opposite direction as you gentlemen said it should pulled partway out of woods one rim coming apart any suggestions on a rim and new tire they are toast rear rim I know not cheap thank you again for all the help |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2025 at 6:52am
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JC Garden supply in northern Indiana can hook you up with a new rim ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |