Wanted: Split Rims for Model B
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Topic: Wanted: Split Rims for Model B
Posted By: GreenOrange
Subject: Wanted: Split Rims for Model B
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2025 at 7:08am
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Looking for a nice set of split rims (split bead) for an early Model B tractor. Thank You! https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/uploads/21138/20230823_194648_compress62.jpg" rel="nofollow - https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/uploads/21138/20230823_194648_compress62.jpg |
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Posted By: Steve in MI
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2025 at 6:22pm
| guess I would have to see a picture can't say have ever seen split bead on block allis |
Posted By: Steve in MI
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2025 at 6:23pm
| spell check kicked in again B allis |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2025 at 6:51pm
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I have seen a couple at tractor shows... on pre 1940 tractors... always wondered if it was factory, or taken off semi truck.. they were 24 inch.. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Steve in MI
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2025 at 6:56pm
| i have a bunch of B's 1939 and up but none have split rims |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2025 at 6:59pm
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yep...i have "heard" there were a few built in 1938. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: GreenOrange
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2025 at 7:01pm
| The earlier 1938 tractors had them. I put a link to a picture in the original post. |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2025 at 7:22pm
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In my earlier days on the farm, we had a B with a 3 digit serial number that we were very sure was all original when we got it. It had lock ring type rims. One was nearly unusable as it had probably has CaCi in them since new. ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2025 at 6:19am
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I have some clamps but no rims. ------------- http://lonsallischalmers.com |
Posted By: Steve in MI
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2025 at 5:47pm
| well Iearned something new, will have to watch at the shows and see if I can find one thanks |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2025 at 10:09am
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Keep seeing 2 or 3 piece rims called SPLIT RIMS - They are not , what are called lock ring rim where a outer ring is held onto full width inner rim by a lock ring which is either a 1 or 2 piece fixture held in tire bead area . SPLIT RIMS were 2 pieces and joined in center section of rim by fitting the 2 halves together by deforming one half over other and then locked together with groove area. Bead area of tire fit onto each half with lock at center to join rim to working fixture . Picture shown is a 2 piece rim with split lock ring - rim would have size at bead area the same for inside and outside area to fit tire inner bead diameter . A 3 piece would have slight step down at outer bead area ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2025 at 10:20am
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Smaller rim but shows difference - ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: SteveMaskey(MO)
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2025 at 5:33pm
These are rusted out but here is what they look like 
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Posted By: KMAG
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2025 at 12:23pm
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That is a lock ring wheel. They were used on Dodge/Ford pickups until about 1968 and US military vehicles and International trucks into the 1980s. Very different than split rim -aka "widow makers" |
Posted By: GreenOrange
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2025 at 4:45pm
| Agreed - they’re not split rims. I’ve heard them called split bead, split ring, and lock rings, and definitely understand the difference. I called them split rims in the title because that’s how they’ve been discussed on this forum and how they’re often referred to for the B. If they actually did use true split rims on this tractor, I personally wouldn’t even mess with them. This style I can work with, albeit carefully. |
Posted By: mruhlig77
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2025 at 4:20pm
| I have a set on a parts B tractor in dark back storage...need to sell whole tractor to keep it rolling....bought it to fix up 1935 IB.....Mark |
Posted By: Vern from MN
Date Posted: 20 May 2025 at 10:35am
| I have one complete split rim for a Model B with two sets of brackets to hold it to the center dish. The split rim needs a little welding from 1 thru rust spot. If interested I can bring it to the Orange Spectacular in Hutchinson, MN in July otherwise I work in the cities in MN. |