June 1979, hay time.
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Topic: June 1979, hay time.
Posted By: Leon B MO
Subject: June 1979, hay time.
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 10:17pm
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Here is a pic I thought Capt. Dana would enjoy. My dad is at the top of the load, he stacked. My uncle is driving the D-17, he picked up the bales and threw them on the trailer, that dad built from an old truck frame. I am on the fender, turned around, facing the camera. I drove while loading the hay, I was 12. When I started at 7, my uncle had to come to the tractor to stop when the trailer was full, I couldn't reach the foot clutch and the hand clutch was to far away on the high side. My brother, behind me in the pic, 6 at the time, road with me, standing on the tread plate. Would not do that today! Trailer would hold 103 bales. I remember thinking after I couldn't see dad, "Isn't it full yet...". Got my butt chewed a time or too for running over a bale so Uncle Kenny didn't have to walk to far for the 2nd row. The next year my brother got the driving job and I got to load with uncle. D-17 was the workhorse in hay season at that time. Side mount mower and a New Idea pull type conditioner to knock the alfalfa and grass hay down, then it baled and hauled every bale all summer. If you look close, dad welded a vise table to the front of the tractor for "in the field sickle" section replacement While loading straw bales we would occasionally have a hired hand helping. Dad would bet them a 6 pack he could throw a straw bale over the loaded trailer and not touch a bale. He never lost that bet. I wish I had a dollar for every bale that D-17 and roto baler spit out. Leon B MO  ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
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Posted By: Bverwolf
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 10:37pm
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Cool picture and story! Just curious, when picking up the rotobales did you guys use hay hooks or a strong handled pitch fork? I use a short handled fork on the few I make every year but was curious as to what others did or do. Thanks again! |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 7:18am
| Great picture, cool story! |
Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 7:47am
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We used hand hooks. Still have them. I still have the tool used to push the end of twine down into the bale. I don't remember ever using it but it was always in it's spot at the back of the baler. Leon B Mo ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
Posted By: Bverwolf
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 8:12am
| That’s a good idea pushing the twine end into the bale. If it comes handy, I’d be interested in seeing a picture of the twine poker tool. |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 8:33am
Twine Poker: I have a couple NOS ones I consider selling. ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: Joe Goodwill
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 8:37am
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My uncle had a 1959D 17 that we used to pick up bales along with other jobs. I was about 10 years old in the mid 1960s when I got to drive it. We had a flat bottom skid that was made of plank dragged on the ground Loaded bales on it and took them back to the yard. We used bale hooks, but my uncle had a hired man who used a strong handle pitchfork to toss the bales up in the air. I still have the fork I can manage straw bales, but he did 50 to 60 pound bales quite easily good memories. I still have the D 17. that long handled power director let a pretty small kid take the place of another man in a lot of situations. I loaded thousands of large round bales with that D 17 in later years still has the original clutch. If you use the power director properly, the clutch will last a long, long time. |
Posted By: Dennis J OPKs
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 8:46am
| Likewise, used hay hooks-one in each hand behind an AC bale loader mounted on a dedicated WC. One or two people on the rack. Unloaded them into either an elevator or used slings under I remember 10 bales at a time and pulled them up into a large hay mow. Tripped the slings, dumped them and started over again. I think the racks held 4 or 5 slings-pulled them up with a tractor. worked well but restacking in the heat was a booger. |
Posted By: Bverwolf
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 11:39am
| Paul, thanks for shooting a pic. I might be interested in one of your pokers. I’ll send you a pvt msg. |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 2:38pm
| I remember them days, I was 10 yers old and we had a CA with the sicle bar mower and I pulled the wagon with it, they used hay hooks, one day we got rained out and my Uncle was picking up and took over driving and I jumped on the wagon where my Great uncle was setting and I didn't see the hay hook as I set down beside him and took the hay hook in the back. Went to the hous and mom bandaged me up and allwas well. |
Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 9:42pm
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That is such a great picture to have - side mount mower still on the tractor. Thanks for sharing. ------------- 1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45 |
Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 10:05pm
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Neighbor had a WD with a side mount sickle, and pulled a McCormick crimper. D17 on a NH small square baler, pulled the loaded wagons with a Farmall Super C. ------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2025 at 10:30pm
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I run a 82S on my D17, a great combination and the AC conditioner behind it when I want to go old school hay mowing. Otherwise I mow the pasture fields with it and along the driveway. It’s a great mower. Never ran a roto-baler, until 3 years ago never seen one operate and that was at my first GOTO in MD. Neat machine, a shame AC gave up on it and didn’t get into bigger round bale machine. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2025 at 12:09am
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After WWII my grandfather and father got into tractor farming with 2 AC B tractors,they bought a Roto Baler at some point and dad baled all over these hills with B and the baler.In 1957 dad bought a WD45 big up grade to pull the baler.Went to a square baler mid 60's since we wanted to sell hay and not many people wanted to buy the round bales.
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2025 at 5:53pm
| AC did buy a patent or machine rights to a big round baler in the early 70,s - Hawk , I think, just didnt follow thru with it; its in one of the history books |
Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2025 at 7:23pm
| Baled with rotobaler pretty much my whole life. Dad did switch to small square bales, a john deere 336 i think. I do remember telling skip covert, the john deere dealer" how the hell am i going to figure out how to run this". I got a c with a bale loader on it . Works good but you need a wagon with a short tongue. Most modern wagons have tongues that are too long. Usually i drop the whole field, bale it then spend the next couple of days picking them up. |
Posted By: Dennis J OPKs
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2025 at 7:32pm
| One other method in our area for square bales was to pull a sled. Spent many hours there also stacking maybe 15 bales on the sled, carried a hefty rod-stick it the ground while moving and go non-stop. Got a little dirty back there and we'd come back later with a rack and load them again. The good old days soon to be forgotten. |