Plow for AC 170-175 ?
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Topic: Plow for AC 170-175 ?
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Subject: Plow for AC 170-175 ?
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2025 at 7:59pm
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What size plow were sold with the 170-175 tractors? Would 3 -16 be too much? Thanks, Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
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Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2025 at 8:17pm
| a 3-16" would be a good size for a 170 or 175. You could probably do a 4-14" depending on soil |
Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2025 at 8:38pm
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3x14 in western Pa ------------- The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate |
Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2025 at 8:51pm
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Just for fun- My grandpa hooked up to an Allis 6-16" with his 175 diesel. And if I didn't see it with my own eyes I wouldn't have believed it. He pulled that plow across the muck ground and did it! I have pictures of this on my old phone, if I can fine them I will post it ------------- Galatians 5:22-24 "I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 12:06am
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Either 3x14" or 3x16" of either fully or semi mount style should work well in most soils. Fully mounted you'll probably want a set of front weights when lifting it out of the ground. A 4x14" semi mount steerable will work in most corn stubble. Good plow lays will make having plow go in & stay in the dirt a lot easier. ------------- AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B, |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 4:37am
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I have an original 3 x 16 three point AC plow, If you are interested... PM me for details... ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: DanielW
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 6:31am
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Asking about plow sizing is kind of like asking how long is a piece of string. No real answer. So much depends on ground condition, soil type, plant structure (sod? alfalfa? grain stubble? burned down with 24D or still growing?), dryness, hills, etc. I always get a laugh when some folks claim their 50-60 HP tractor will pull something like a 4X14 with ease, and then you find out they're pulling in grain stubble. To me, the measure of a tractor's plowing capability is how well it can pull the plow in sod (and probably alfalfa to boot, which is really tough with it's long/thick roots). I'd generally agree that 3X16 would probably be a good match for a 175. In light stubble it wouldn't even feel it. But in hilly clay with sod or alfalfa, it'd be a different story. At my father's farm, for instance, any of our 50 HP tractors will walk away with a 3X16 and not even break a sweat even in sod because it's nice, light, loamy soil. At our farm an hour North of there where we mainly plow fresh hay ground, and where it's much tougher, steeper, and rockier soil, the same 3X16 can bring our 180 or Ford 6600 to its knees. The White 2-105 is a much better match.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 6:33am
| Please Google: Dr Allis plowing at the Brown Farm 2024 u-tube videos. bobschannelob there are several plowing videos from last April. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 7:22am
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This the one you're thinking of Doc? https://youtu.be/5BsBxZ-lon0?si=Oh0V3iXaq_a5Jpc_" rel="nofollow - https://youtube/5BsBxZ-loN0?si=Oh0V3iXaq_a5Jpc_ As to the original question; Tractor data does not give a plow rating for the 170/175 tractors but a series 4 D-17 is rated as a 5 plow tractor. My thinking is a lot of 4 bottoms were probably sold new with them. 14's mostly with a smattering of 16's. In today's world if you have a nice 3-16's that would be a good match. Probably aren't looking to turn 40 acres a year with it are you?
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 7:24am
| Probably. It must have offended someone. It's been taken down. There are at least 4 videos of last springs plow day. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 7:32am
| It's still there, not sure why the link isn't working. |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 7:45am
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All 4 videos are still posted. Here is video 2 from the Brown Farm 2024. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2EyyflZB7M0&pp=ygUbZHIgQWxsaXMgcGxvd2luZyBicm93biBmYXJt" rel="nofollow - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2EyyflZB7M0&pp=ygUbZHIgQWxsaXMgcGxvd2luZyBicm93biBmYXJt |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 7:47am
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IBWD MIke wrote:Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 7:51am
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BsBxZ-lon0&t=79s%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BsBxZ-loN0&t=79s |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 7:58am
| One thing I will say about plowing with any A-C tractor (D-17 IV up thru 200) that has a factory 3-point hitch, the chances are pretty good that without some attention, the Traction Booster linkage will be mal-adjusted or missing or stuck, and therefore the TBoost system won't work. Also a very good chance the torsion bar system that signals the Traction Booster will be worn out as well. I can take a 3 x 16's mounted plow on a 180 or 185 without fluid in the rear tires and struggle to pull that plow with a non-functioning Traction Booster. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 7:59am
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The video is still there, link in my previous post is messed up and I can not seem to fix it. Here's a link to the channel, maybe; https://www.youtube.com/@RedBarnMachineWorks/videos" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/@RedBarnMachineWorks/videos |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 2:47pm
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We ran a JD 4x16 semi mount on our 175. We had pretty sandy soil though. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2025 at 3:31pm
| Back to the original question "what size plow were sold with 170-175's" ?? Each piece of advertising literature always had a 4-bottom plow hooked to these tractors. Pretty easy to tell if it was 14" cut on a 70 or 80 series and it was just that. The D-17 was the same way. And I know there are parts of the country that 3 x 16's was more prominent because of soil types. 56 inches of cut down to 48 inches with the 3 x 16. |