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Topic: Garage Door Safety Beam
Posted By: Tbone95
Subject: Garage Door Safety Beam
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 9:54am
How do you semi-permanently defeat these? Is it simply a switch inside? Is just 2 wires each…Are the sensors typically interchangeable between brands? Got one Genie (not working right) and one Stanley working that I could use for troubleshooting. Need to be frugal for now!😎



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Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 10:53am
Mount them together nose to nose.

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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2025 at 11:31am
Yeah, in the process of doing that I ended up finding the broken wire!      Thanks


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2025 at 11:58am
Mine are up above a couple inches apart. Small children and pets beware....


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2025 at 12:45pm
Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

Mine are up above a couple inches apart. Small children and pets beware....

The question really comes down to, if you had a bad one, can you fool the unit into thinking everything is fine.


Posted By: Harvey/pa
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2025 at 1:15pm
mounted mine above the door on the header pointed at each other, has worked for 30 years...Harvey


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2025 at 4:05pm
Tbone, i dont thing you can " wire around it".... everyone just tapes them looking at each other...... If one goes BAD, i think you are screwed..

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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2025 at 9:58pm

I found this on the internet, SO IT MUST BE TRUE !

G

Use Reflective Materials

Reflective materials can be employed to bounce the infrared beam back to the sensors, creating the illusion of an uninterrupted path. For garage door sensor bypass. place reflective tape or similar materials on surfaces near the sensors to achieve this effect.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2025 at 10:03pm
that does NOT eliminate the sensor... that was his question.. reflexting the beam is useless... WHY ?

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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2025 at 8:28am
Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Tbone, i dont thing you can " wire around it".... everyone just tapes them looking at each other...... If one goes BAD, i think you are screwed..
Thanks Steve, I figured as much. As I mentioned, I found a broken wire and everything is working now, but while my thinking was getting ahead of my doing I was wondering if they could just be eliminated.


Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2025 at 5:27pm
Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Tbone, i dont thing you can " wire around it".... everyone just tapes them looking at each other...... If one goes BAD, i think you are screwed..
Thanks Steve, I figured as much. As I mentioned, I found a broken wire and everything is working now, but while my thinking was getting ahead of my doing I was wondering if they could just be eliminated.

I would have to study a schematic but there has to be a way to wire around it. It is simply sending a go/no go voltage.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2025 at 5:35pm
um, it might not be a steady beam.....
I've seen them where the beam is actually pulsed ( high frequency ) so someone with a flashlight can't 'fake' the beam to open the garage door.


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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2025 at 5:45pm
its not an ON- OFF switch... If the door is OPENING and you stand in front of the beam, nothing happens... If the door is CLOSED and you stand in front of the beam, nothing happens.. If the door is MOVING DOWN and you stand in front of the beam, the door reverses direction.... There is LOGIC involved... not just OPEN- CLOSE ( on - off).

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Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2025 at 7:31pm
Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

um, it might not be a steady beam.....
I've seen them where the beam is actually pulsed ( high frequency ) so someone with a flashlight can't 'fake' the beam to open the garage door.

Yes, I worked with photo eyes for years in the sawmill business, there are many types of photo eyes and not all of them use visible light, various frequencies, etc. The 'logic' is dealt with at the controller, the photo eye just says 'blocked/not blocked'. 

Lacking the schematic and the ladder diagram it is difficult to know just where to tap into the system to defeat it. Maybe not a good idea anyway Tongue



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