DEF junk
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Topic: DEF junk
Posted By: DanWi
Subject: DEF junk
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 4:54pm
| Just read that Oklahoma is proposing a law to protect farms and businesses from undue burden caused by the new diesel engines. Just had 2 examples here today, we have had temps from 0 to 10 degrees out with -20 windchill. Friends fairly new Ford pickup, the cable that heats the hose for the fluid failed and had to be replaced. And talked to a guy from the coop in line delivering corn today. Monday night he said his freightliner went in regen mode and after running it quite awhile wouldn't make enough heat to finish a regen so they had to take it to the dealer. I wondered about that last week as the line at the ethanol was a 1 and a 1/2 hour wait, and you have to keep moving ahead. Do they let the trucks idle or shut them off? My old Freightliner just sits and idles at high idle. |
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 5:10pm
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When I was hauling petroleum products - big sign at GATE on regen of tractor , must be outside of refinery property , NO REGEN on or near any area on property or their frontage road to gate . Was bad enough when company filled their bulk tank for tractors and it went below Zero and filters gelled - of over 150 tractors . I got back to yard after buying 40 gallons of #1 as my tanks were low enough . The full idea of a water based fluid and in a area of freezing temp is another government SCREW UP of some Desk Jockey who doesn't even know how to hold a steering wheel in a Class 8 truck without getting a nose bleed from the height to cab ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2025 at 6:01pm
| Diesel engine freedom act is the law proposed. I hope it makes its way to other or all states. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 5:40am
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More states and industrial side suppliers getting on this train. Does so little while costs so much not just initially but constantly. A running joke as to how much it cleans up the air which is minimal at best. Engine companies showcase EPA “Estimations” of what level of exchange and conversion these garbage piles perform. Is on the engine company sites, 20-30% particulate reduction which means 20 is typical 30 is likely from a brand new distance driven road tractor in the 11 western states in the Summer. Produces water and Co2 from the CO in exhaust is a flatout lie, the water comes from the DEF not the engine exhaust. As well as with the auto systems even on Gas the US could be witnessing 35-55mpg gasoline cars instead of 22-35 and 8+ instead of 6+ on diesel powered road trucks. Saving Fuel should be priority one not burning more claiming polluting Less, that math does not compute. VW proved this point with their cheat as the machines passed Drive By emissions checks achieving 45mpg on diesel, was a insider that squealed as to the programming mods to attain mpg and still meet air quality that cost them a bundle. VW in EU achieve close to 50mpg on diesel, 40-45 on gas and 2/3 that here. Science can be fascinating as to finding idiot flaws. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 5:54am
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May not be viable yet will throw these numbers down. My rebuild C15 Cat 15liter engine at 70mph at a minimal load achieved a phenomenal 8.7 mpg on cruise on a fresh not completely broken in rebuild. With a livht 13,800# load same travel path at same speeds attained 8.1mpg and I am logging these trips records. The same model can I drive at work has a dash indicated mpg value where is geared similarly and has a 15L cummins X15, cannot break 5.9 mpg out of it no matter the operation parameters. Exhaust after treatment cuts in INJECTS Fuel to add heat in the System to make it function, wastes high dollar fuel and DEF trying to eat what is NOT there so adds enough to have something to consume. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 12:00pm
yes, but science stands in the way of 'someone' making their 10% ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |