Insulation product warnings
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Topic: Insulation product warnings
Posted By: DMiller
Subject: Insulation product warnings
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2025 at 4:35pm
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Having to undergo Fire Fighting training at the Nuke we learned to keep our SCBA units ON regardless the fire being knocked down. One was for potential of a relight with heavy smoke the other combustion product gases auch as burning Wool that releases Hydrogen Cyanide. The New Craze in home insulation is none other than Wool, are no cautions or warnings that I have seen as to the problem of Poison gas release in a fire, none nowhere. |
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2025 at 2:32am
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Handled Chlorine gas for over 30 years as used in Chemical Milling operation . At times we had over 17 Tons of it setting on loading dock and in handling room . Used a SCBA when changing tank connections - then house air mask instead . When went to Emergency Response Team Incident Commander - it was required to suit up to Level 2 any time there was a leak . Last leak I responded to - wet chlorine interacted with titanium diaphragm in reduction pressure regulator , creating a fire , had City Fire Dept respond . They would not enter area as Chlorine involved and their responders from that station were not Haz-Mat trained for gas . Had to go Level 1 to check if any fire in room then - they stood by to get clearance to enter after all system valves were isolated . One never knows what one is going to find out what things will injure or kill you sometimes - who would thing WOOL is now a health hazard ! ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: ac hunter
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2025 at 1:30pm
| May be a dumb question but what is the wool you are talking about? Is it some chemically formulated fiberglass like stuff?. Can't be sheep's wool or, can it? |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2025 at 4:55pm
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Would they be talking about rock wool insulation, I wonder? It's a popular insulation material but more expensive than fiberglass, and contains some recycled materials. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2025 at 5:53pm
The most common occurrence of cyanide poisoningSeveral reports have shown that persons admitted to hospital due to fire accidents may have been exposed to carbon monoxide (CO) as well as cyanide (CN) [ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3058018/#B1" rel="nofollow - 1 - https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3058018/#B3" rel="nofollow - 3 ]. In fact, it has been reported that the most common source of CN poisoning in humans arise from exposure to fires [ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3058018/#B4" rel="nofollow - 4 ]. In fires CN is developed when the temperature reaches 315°C (600°F) and is released from the toxic fumes in the gaseous form, i.e. hydrogen cyanide (HCN) which may then be inhaled by the victim [ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3058018/#B1" rel="nofollow - 1 ]. HCN is developed from an incomplete combustion of any material containing nitrogen [ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3058018/#B5" rel="nofollow - 5 ] such as plastic, vinyl, wool or silk [ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3058018/#B6" rel="nofollow - 6 ]. It is worth noticing that when cotton burns it develops 130 μg HCN/g, paper 1100 μg HCN/g and wool 6300 μg HCN/g. One has to be aware that HCN is still produced when the fire is only glowing embers [ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3058018/#B7" rel="nofollow - 7 ]. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2025 at 5:58pm
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who would have guessed ... Wool contains approximately 10-12% nitrogen on average, making it a good source of slow-release nitrogen for soil when used as compost or fertilizer;. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2025 at 9:09pm
| Well, I always did prefer cotton.... |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2025 at 9:21am
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California will probably ban sheep as deadly hazard!! |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2025 at 1:27pm
| That would be tough with all the Mutton Head Sheople out there!!!! |
Posted By: johnkc
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2025 at 5:36pm
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Steve{ill], That helps explain a video a watched the other day about a Gardener in Scotland using Sheeps Wool as a bedding / Fertilizer in her gardens. She also claimed the wool she is using is deemed worthless in Scotland due to the abundance. ------------- I support the development of hybrid automobiles and alternative fuels as I need DIESEL fuel for my ALLIS CHALMERS! |
Posted By: ac hunter
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 12:14pm
| just go buy someting made of wool, it becomes vastly more valuable. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 2:31pm
Sheep lie!  ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Alberta Phil wrote:Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 3:12pm
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BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA hahaha.... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2025 at 5:32pm
Baaaaah, DaaaaaDy!!
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