Identify planter
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Topic: Identify planter
Posted By: reloaded-51
Subject: Identify planter
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2025 at 12:35am
Hi all. Just bought a planter. One of those that’s been cut down from a bigger planter. Could someone identify the number for me please? Thanks 
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2025 at 4:12am
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333 ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: im4racin
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2025 at 7:00am
| It doesn't have a model for the frame. Just the row units. They are number 74. Ground drive disk opener plate unit. |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2025 at 2:10pm
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Actually they are 72 series units and a home made frame - The scrapers for the double disc should be changed/modified to one that is 90 degrees to the blade - the factory scrapers threw the dirt out of the trench in a ribbon if there was any moisture in the seedbed resulting in either poor coverage or the need to plant too deep.. ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2025 at 5:59pm
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My 74 planter units have a roller type drive chain. ------------- It's the color tractor my grandpa had! |
Posted By: jvin248
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2025 at 6:49pm
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. Not sure if you got enough seed plates, but reproduction plates are sold by "Lincoln" or eBay for used. That planter may use one of the common IH or John Deere plates with an insert. The Lincoln plate site may give more details. Once you get the row units id'd then also find a planter manual. . |
Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2025 at 9:14pm
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#72 units, disc openers. the #74 have runners. Both are individual ground drive from packer wheel. I'll guess a #500, #600 or #333 frame. ------------- AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B, |
Posted By: reloaded-51
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2025 at 9:58pm
| Thank you all for your input. It doesn’t have roller chain. It has link chain, or at least that’s what I call it. |
Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2025 at 9:59pm
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My 74 units have disc openers. ------------- It's the color tractor my grandpa had! |
Posted By: im4racin
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2025 at 10:03pm
| Pretty sure they are 74s |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2025 at 4:08pm
Was this an update Allis offered? I have some 74 units and they don't have the style of scraper you describe, but I would like to update it if I could see what one looked like.
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tbran wrote:Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2025 at 8:45pm
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50 series have either and lever or hand crank for depth - 51 means runner opener all have ag link chain. 70 series 71 series were runner 72 series were disc opener all had ag link chain #52 73 series were runner 74 series were double disc - roller chain with ball brg rear axle. late series had a stainless wear ring in the hopper bottom 77 series were air with runner and ddisc openers flat chain. 78 series were like the 74 but were air 79 were runner opener air series all had 2040 roller chain. Around 1982 AC started work on the quadradisc unit. It was the best - 2 16" offset double disc openers with 2 overlapping 18" closers with rubber gauge wheels bolted to them on walking beam chain control depth control. After the first update they were almost perfect as to high speed planting of the day. The issue was cash strapped and non implement oriented Deutz Allis gave up the no til market which they owned 80 per cent market share to go after 80 per cent of the market which was conventional planter and which they owned 0 percent. They failed due to not having a true 15" row planter in 12 row version. Lou Swoverland was the marketing manager - well the head anyway, as how could one market something that would not fit the application. We still know where the 12 row 30" that was at the LL Ranch is - in a shed in the back side of nowhere :-) ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: im4racin
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2025 at 9:21pm
| Would the 72 have come with the fiberglass box? The press wheel framework and the parallel linkage is a little different than the 74s I have. Could you put a 74 Bo’s on a 72? |
Posted By: reloaded-51
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2025 at 10:34pm
| Thank you for all that information! I’m sure it’s gonna help others too. |